Mr_Phil Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Peeled this off from the other thread. I feel for those guys tonight. I'm mostly concerned for the guy alone at the summit. They likely packed him in good with all their warm stuff and fuel, but I think splitting up may have been a bad call... Quote
olyclimber Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 What you do in a situation like this may be a discussion worth having, but not in the TR forum. Quote
Off_White Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 And I ping-ponged it down to Spray based on the title alone. Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Hindsight is always 20-20. Maybe Mr_Phil is having a bit of 20-20 hindsight in posting this thread the way he did. The question is valid though. It's a tough call, but the circumstances will alway dictate different outcomes. Quote
Lambone Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 fine I'll edit it, fuck off...people are critisizing them for shopping at REI in that thread, sheesh. your right, hindsight in this case is not ok, it was 1 in the morning and I was half asleep. still, now rescuers are looking for two seperate parties because they split up. Quote
Dechristo Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 If I deemed the injuries to my partner may be life-threatening, I'd probably try to make him as comfortable as possible and go for help. Quote
Lambone Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 What about DirtyHarry's post: Hate to say it, but it was foolhardy for this group to attempt the route in light of the poor weather forecast. Now the group is responsible for exposing their many rescuers to serious avy hazards and other dangers. I hope everyone makes it off the mountain in good condition, though. You gunna bash him too Dr Phil? Quote
StevenSeagal Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 It's a tough call, but the circumstances will alway dictate different outcomes. I love you, H. Quote
ketch Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 The thread is about bashing Lambone. I can't quite do it. Like Oly I feel like discussing it is worth doing but maybe on a differant thread. Any one that feels like they can make the decision here and now from the comfort of home has not done this enough. The more I go out the more apparent it is that making the best decision you can with the info you have in the place you are works. However, that is seldom the "perfect" solution. Quote
rbw1966 Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 How about a moderator editing the thread title? Quote
Mr_Phil Posted December 12, 2006 Author Posted December 12, 2006 I love you, H. No, it's ice cream. Quote
Lambone Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 still waiting for you to BASH me Mr. Phil...are a set or rolleyes the best you can do? Didn't they get a cell phone call out? Why then would the two partners need to descend for help. We don't have all the pieces of the puzzle. But a little speculation isn't such a terrible thing, it is human nature to speculate about what happened. Quote
rbw1966 Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 A little speculation is out of place in that particular thread where it was clear that friends, family and even the media were watching. You can armchair quarterback all you want but the fact is, no one knows at this time exactly what happened. Quote
Lambone Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 no shit sherlock "I think splitting up may have been a bad call." Isn't really speculation, it is statement of fact, as now rescures are searching for two missing parties. Quote
kevbone Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 I'm not leaving you, H. SS, your soooooo funny, keep it up! Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, Quote
rbw1966 Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Actually, Sherlock, "I think splitting up may have been a bad call." is your OPINION. Just because you back it up with this now rescures [sic] are searching for two missing parties. doesn't make it a fact. Quote
lbeam Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 According to info from rescuers, I am pretty certain that the cell phone call went out after the 2 climbers left the other in the snow cave. I am guessing that they weren't able to keep a strong enough signal to have a very long phone discussion or make another call. Don't bash on me, just passing some info on. I do know that sometimes you can get a call out and others you can't. Quote
Lambone Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 makes sense did the injured guy say what his injuries were? I haven't seen it. just curious Quote
StevenSeagal Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 We did it H...we're going home....YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Quote
lbeam Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Lambone, No mention what his injuries are. Right now that is mostly speculation because it doesn't make sense that he would be left behind for any other reason. Also another phone company picked up a signal from a different phone, which they believe may belong to one of the other climbers. Still, I don't know how correct this info is. Last I heard they were trying to get a location of that signal. I don't know how close they can get to the possible location of the two climbers, but it's something. Hopefully the two guys that headed out for help, decided to hunker down because of weather. If that is the case they stand a better chance. Quote
StevenSeagal Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Do you have your strategy down yet, H? Quote
willstrickland Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 still waiting for you to BASH me Mr. Phil...are a set or rolleyes the best you can do? Yeah Phil, what kinda lightweight sprayer are you? The 'bone is an easy target in this case. You could break out a multitude of Glacier Peak jabs/barbs. But you're clearly out of your element in the spray zone. How's business Matt? Quote
Lambone Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Hi Will, business is rocking now that winter is here. Especially since the mountain isn't open yet. Things are good, havin fun. Visit on your next trip to the valley, were only 5min off I-5. Cheers, bone p.s. after our Glacier Peak experience I can totaly empathize with the poor bastards stuck on Hood right now. It makes me cringe to think if our party of three had been split up during that storm. Quote
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