Kevin_Matlock Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 found a deal on the z3 to z6 WC zero cams - $30 a pop. since they usually go for double that, seems like a steal. is this worth it or are these cams crap? Quote
selkirk Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I've got Z3, Z4, and Z5 and have been reasonably happy with them. Though I haven't fallen on them yet, action is good, floppy stems good, extendable sling good, and smaller/less bulky then the equivalent TCU's (though I have TCU's in the larger sizes). Did talk to an aid climber friend who really disliked them though. She felt they tended to get stuck more easily than Aliens or TCU's. Quote
G-spotter Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I like them way more than aliens. quality control for one thing. Also that they flex to the head, great for shallow horizontal cracks. Quote
counterfeitfake Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I think they're awesome and at that price you should buy some. The flexible stem makes them very useful. I wouldn't say they replace Aliens but they can fit some places where Aliens can't (vice versa applies too). Â One thing to note is that there are two versions, the old ones and the new ones with longer stems. The longer stems are probably nicer but the old ones are good. Â The two smallest ones are really only good for aid. The purple one is pretty alarmingly small. Quote
tradclimbguy Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Maybe you could send the 30 dollar cam deal our way? I wouldn't mind to add some to my aid rack. Quote
Kevin_Matlock Posted December 11, 2006 Author Posted December 11, 2006 wild country zero cams, long stem! $29.83/ea z3 silver z4 gold z5 blue z6 red  sorry folks, i snagged the last blue and red they had, they have 4 of the silver and 4 of the golds left. saw no sign of the z1 purple or z2 green... maybe they don't carry 'em?  where: tualatin, (not so) evil empire get 'em while the gettins good. [tup]  btw, looked on line at rei.com and didn't see any sign of this sale so it might just be a local store sale. your local store's mileage may vary i guess.  Quote
TrogdortheBurninator Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I think they already sold out online, but the seattle store still had some last week. I showed restraint and did not buy any. Quote
selkirk Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 The purple one scares me. It looks like it belongs on my keychain. Â Quote
catbirdseat Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I think they already sold out online, but the seattle store still had some last week. I showed restraint and did not buy any. Jim Nelson had them for $25. I should have bought some when I had the chance, but I'm so poor. Quote
Kevin_Matlock Posted December 11, 2006 Author Posted December 11, 2006 The purple one scares me. It looks like it belongs on my keychain. no shit... by the looks of it i'm sorta debating on even placing that z3! "optimistic" might be the term here. but, i'd trust this before a nut in some instances. instead, maybe i'll just hang it from my harness for the next trip to the gym. Quote
counterfeitfake Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 The yellow one is easily the MVP of the set. Quote
tomtom Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 The Z1-3 are great for aid. They can work in thin cracks instead of pins. You do have to be careful, though. Â I had placed the Z1 on the 4th pitch of Re-Animator in Yos and moved up on it. (Didn't bounce test it, cause it's so small.) While fumbling around for the next placement, I heard a bit of a ripping sound. Since I was still on the gear, I assumed it biner shift. After moving onto the next piece, a rivet, I looked back and noticed that the Z1 had shifted and I had been standing on only two lobes. Â Bomber, dude. Â Â Â Quote
fenderfour Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 The Z1-3 are great for aid. They can work in thin cracks instead of pins. You do have to be careful, though. I had placed the Z1 on the 4th pitch of Re-Animator in Yos and moved up on it. (Didn't bounce test it, cause it's so small.) While fumbling around for the next placement, I heard a bit of a ripping sound. Since I was still on the gear, I assumed it biner shift. After moving onto the next piece, a rivet, I looked back and noticed that the Z1 had shifted and I had been standing on only two lobes.  Bomber, dude.    Eeek! I just pooped my pants a little.  I went to REI to rent some snowshoes for an outing with the ladyfriend and saw the $30 new style zeros. I showed restraint and only bought two sets.  snoogins Quote
powderhound Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 I have taken a fall on my blue zero and it held well. i bought some late this summer for the gunks and they worked like a charm. I place them before I place my aliens. Though I wish all mine had the longer stems. Â Bryan Quote
MCash Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 I've fallen on Yellow, Blue, and Red. All held great. Haven't fallen on the gray Z3 yet, you can free climb on that one too, not just aid. Quote
Tenacious T Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 I've fallen on Yellow, Blue, and Red. All held great. Haven't fallen on the gray Z3 yet, you can free climb on that one too, not just aid. Â I have the silver - red but haven't fallen on them. Good to hear you had positive results!! They are so floppy and the heads are so small. That's the point, I guess, but they wig me out a little. Quote
fenderfour Posted December 15, 2006 Posted December 15, 2006 There are still plenty of these at the Seattle REI for $30. Quote
Kraken Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 wicked sweet! Hate to support the evil empire, but at least i know they aren't making much money with them being half off. I stopped by REI today to check out the new Rambo Comp 4s (didn't have 'em) and saw this deal. Think I'll pick up the Z 4,5,6 after reading these reviews. I've already got the BD C3s, but these sounds pretty bomber for the horizontal cracks and all that jazz. Â Plus I was looking for some aliens, but we don't sell 'em anymore and this is a screaming deal. Quote
JosephH Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 Wait for Lowe-Byrne ball nuts on ebay... Quote
tomtom Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 I don't think there is a ball nut that fits the range of a Z6. Quote
northvanclimber Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 who sells zeros in the vancouver (canada) area now that MEC has stopped selling them? does anyone know if climb-on carries them in squamish? Quote
G-spotter Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 they had stacks of them last time i went in there Quote
JosephH Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 I don't think there is a ball nut that fits the range of a Z6. Â That would be Metolius #2. In fact, a Metolius #00 covers a WCZ #3 and that leaves only the WCZ #1 & #2 that need alternatives. Ball nuts provide coverage up through WCZ #4. Bottom line, Ball nuts are a way, way better choice than the low end of WCZ's and Metolius TCU's are a way better alternative to the second half of the WCZ range. They are just a very weak alternative to other options in my opinion. Quote
G-spotter Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 Bottom line, Ball nuts are a way, way better choice than the low end of WCZ's  :lmao: Quote
northvanclimber Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 they had stacks of them last time i went in there  at MEC? i looked online and didn't see 'em. i thought i remembered them selling them off a while back... Quote
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