cdomsch Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Anybody tried/or plan to try the new BD C3s? How do y'all think they compare to the Metolius TCUs and/or the Wild Country Zeros? I'm thinking about adding them to my rack. Quote
corvallisclimb Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 i fiddled with one i found a while ago before it was returned to the owner, i didnt like it at all . tcus are the way to go Quote
catbirdseat Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Consensus is that: Â Narrowest head on the market Not flexible like TCU's or Aliens Very expensive Durability ????? Quote
John Frieh Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Durability ????? Â When is the last time you had or heard about a camalot blowing up or falling apart on anyone? Why would C3s be any different? Â They are plenty flexible. Quote
Ade Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Durability ????? Â When is the last time you had or heard about a camalot blowing up or falling apart on anyone? Why would C3s be any different? Â They are plenty flexible. Â But it's a BD version 1 product so anything might happen Quote
RuMR Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 i remember when the first camalots came out...no issues then... Â AFIVE was sportin' some last weekend, why don't you ask him??? Quote
RuMR Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 oh, and cbs, they are waaaaaay more flexi than tcu's... Â having said that, i use tcu's ALL the time and they are my favorites...built like tanks...i'm still using some that i've had from the late 80's...and i USE them, I suck and fall ALL of the time... Quote
dbconlin Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 I hate tcu's. they are great new, but once you fall on them or overcam them and have to wrestle them out and you bend one of the cable-stems, they become worthless. I have BD camalots, aliens and metolius cams, and the metolius are the only ones that have quit working on me. and yes, i have tried rebending them back in shape, but they are never quite the same again. Quote
larrythellama Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 i ruined a camalot .1 with an a1 placement..the cam lobes folded. Quote
corvallisclimb Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 Durability ????? Â When is the last time you had or heard about a camalot blowing up or falling apart on anyone? Why would C3s be any different? Â They are plenty flexible. Â I had heard about some of the "testers" breaking one or two of theirs. Due to them getting stuck or something along those lines. I can probably find out more. Quote
RuMR Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 I hate tcu's. they are great new, but once you fall on them or overcam them and have to wrestle them out and you bend one of the cable-stems, they become worthless. I have BD camalots, aliens and metolius cams, and the metolius are the only ones that have quit working on me. and yes, i have tried rebending them back in shape, but they are never quite the same again. Â maybe you are to fat?? Â i've lobbed on mine too many times to count...never retired any of them... Quote
dbconlin Posted April 7, 2006 Posted April 7, 2006 I hate tcu's. they are great new, but once you fall on them or overcam them and have to wrestle them out and you bend one of the cable-stems, they become worthless. I have BD camalots, aliens and metolius cams, and the metolius are the only ones that have quit working on me. and yes, i have tried rebending them back in shape, but they are never quite the same again. Â maybe you are to fat?? Â i've lobbed on mine too many times to count...never retired any of them... Â I weigh 140 lbs. too fat...??? maybe. it could also do with the areas I have climbed. I used to do a lot of trad at Eldorado Canyon in Boulder. Lots of placements in horizontal cracks, etc. not straight up and down, so the stems get bent if you fall. Maybe they are better for other types of climbing. But anyway, I used BD camalots and Aliens in the same place and never have had a problem with those. Quote
dbb Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I used a set of C3s earlier this year on a climb. I really liked 'em. I've been exclusively metolious TCU/FCU for my small freeclimbing cams. the C3s have a softer flex across the wide part than the metolious and have a much, much narrower head. They are very ridid along the axle, which I love because it makes getting stuck pieces out easier. this is primarily the reason why I have used metolius over aliens. I also like that the trigger wires are so short and out of the way they they probably won't get cut on the smallest cams. the downside is that they are expensive, but I'll probably end up getting them for when I retire my other small cams or when building a larger aid rack. Quote
111 Posted May 20, 2006 Posted May 20, 2006 My girlfriend thought they were "cute" Should climbing gear be "cute"? Quote
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