32 or 38? you decide

[thestidham]

alright so I've heard a lot of peoples opinions on which is better exit 32 or exit 38. I haven't been to either, but I hope to be up that way a bunch as soon as I build my arc and servive god's rath of rain . anyway just wanted to hear what you guys thought. ready go.

[catbirdseat]

I enjoy climbing at both places. There are even a few walls that overhang enough to climb in the rain if you know where to go. So it's not the greatest climbing in the world. It's close and sure beats the rock gym. Have fun.

[matt_warfield]

E38 has more climbing in the moderate range (5.10 and under) but is quite spread out and most think is chossier. E32 (principally World Wall) is premiere for 5.11 and up (way up). You'll end up trying both due to their convenient close location and deciding for yourself.

[catbirdseat]

The only choss at Exit 38 is the Deception area which features cliff faces blasted out for a railroad cut. Since it is the closest climbing area and one that most newcomers see, it is resposible for the choss reputation.

[kix]

WWII is more manly

[Mr._Natural]

The only choss at Exit 38 is the Deception area which features cliff faces blasted out for a railroad cut. Since it is the closest climbing area and one that most newcomers see, it is resposible for the choss reputation.

 

[Geek_the_Greek]

Also, the cliffs on the north side of I-90 at X38 (Far side - Eastern Block, Headlight Point, Gritscone, etc.) are known for some of the softest grades around (printed grades at least 2-3 grades higher than any other local areas). The older cliffs, on the south side of the highway (Nevermind, Mt Washington areas, etc.) have grades more in line with other local sport areas, like X32.

[catbirdseat]

The only choss at Exit 38 is the Deception area which features cliff faces blasted out for a railroad cut. Since it is the closest climbing area and one that most newcomers see, it is resposible for the choss reputation.

I'm not kidding. Choss means loose, manky rock. I wasn't talking about quality, which is another issue entirely. By and large the rock at Exit 38 is solid, with the except of the road cut.

[dom]

has anyone been to 32 or 38 over the winter? Will WW1 be dry this weekend?

 

thanks

dom

[OrganDonor]

IMO!! Both places are fun and have good routes. I think Exit 32 has a little longer approach, but then if your choosing to go interstate park area at exit 38 its about the same. Deception crags(exit 38), from your car to the wall is like 5 minutes.

 

Watch for loose rock at interstate park though. I had a soccer ball size rock, break free while I was setting up a top rope. It looked solid, and I was just pushing against it to re position my feet, when snap, it flaked off. Luckily it missed my partner below.(Would have been a killer) I wasn't so fortunate though. When the rock flaked off it caused me to lunge forward, slamming my face into the wall. There's nothing like finishing up the top rope, while dripping massive blood everywhere. I literally saw stars, and damn near broke my nose. It took me a half hour or better to finish setting the TR up. All I wanted to do was get down, so I went hella slow not to rush myself and fuck up. It was an experience, it'll get ya jacked up thats for sure.

 

Im just glad I was anchored when all this happened. Also glad to have learned from my mistake without paying with my partners life or mine. I should have checked the hold more thouroughly before putting any weight on it, even though I wasn't weighting it, just pushing against it.

 

I definitely would wear a helmet there!!!

[kevbone]

I heard cars get broken into alot at these places.

[kix]

best bouldering in western wa is located between the two.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[catbirdseat]

The route Displacement is aptly named (Interstate Park). Climbers routinely displace rocks from it. Be careful where you set your belay.

IMO!! Both places are fun and have good routes. I think Exit 32 has a little longer approach, but then if your choosing to go interstate park area at exit 38 its about the same. Deception crags(exit 38), from your car to the wall is like 5 minutes.

 

Watch for loose rock at interstate park though. I had a soccer ball size rock, break free while I was setting up a top rope. It looked solid, and I was just pushing against it to re position my feet, when snap, it flaked off. Luckily it missed my partner below.(Would have been a killer) I wasn't so fortunate though. When the rock flaked off it caused me to lunge forward, slamming my face into the wall. There's nothing like finishing up the top rope, while dripping massive blood everywhere. I literally saw stars, and damn near broke my nose. It took me a half hour or better to finish setting the TR up. All I wanted to do was get down, so I went hella slow not to rush myself and fuck up. It was an experience, it'll get ya jacked up thats for sure.

 

Im just glad I was anchored when all this happened. Also glad to have learned from my mistake without paying with my partners life or mine. I should have checked the hold more thouroughly before putting any weight on it, even though I wasn't weighting it, just pushing against it.

 

I definitely would wear a helmet there!!!

[mountainmatt]

has anyone been to 32 or 38 over the winter? Will WW1 be dry this weekend?

 

Since the forecast looks like it will be dry for a couple days before hand, I think there is a good chance some of the routes will dry out. You just want to make sure you hit a dry wall (facing the sun).

[jibby]

32 has WWI and it kicks ass. exit 38 is a good place for beginers and large groups. Also, if you want to escape 38 has lots of little crags that you can hike to to get some peace. But, 32 has more hard routesa in one location, but usally is more crowded.

[ScottP]

best bouldering in western wa is located between the two.

 

That would be Exit 35?

[BigIslandCurls]

Sean -

 

from my experience at both crags, jibby pretty much covered it. World wall at 32 is steep, overhanging, and stout, and primarily .11hard - .13. Lots of link-ups/extensions and it seems to only get harder the higher you go. 38 has numerous walls and mini-crags and plenty to climb in the .8 - .10easy range and is thus a nice destination for introducing people to climbing outdoors. There are also some great 10s and 11s, so it's also ideal for when you have a mixed group of abilities.

 

In closing, 32 all the way you ninny!

[powdrx]

I dig Amazonia Wall at X38. Great climbs into hard 10s. And, as said before, WWI rocks at X32 and has great potential to stay dry with the upper overhangs. Get out and climb!!

[kix]

best bouldering in western wa is located between the two.

 

That would be Exit 35?

 

 

then turn left.

[dom]

best bouldering in western wa is located between the two.

 

 

 

 

you talking about this place?

 

http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=941922

 

is it any good? do you have any more info

 

cheers

dom

 

[Jens]

best bouldering in western wa is located between the two.

 

 

 

 

 

What you speak of is good, but that is quite a strrettttch of a statement.

[kix]

no to the first post and description.

 

yes to the photos.

 

*oops, first two photos are in fact The Garden.

Edited February 12, 2007 by kix

[kix]

best bouldering in western wa is located between the two.

 

 

 

 

 

What you speak of is good, but that is quite a strrettttch of a statement.

 

 

I am not referring to The Garden.

 

thanks for playing.

[ilookeddown]

Up the North Fork.

[Trundle]

Did you want to tell us where you are speaking of? Or are you just chestbeating?