dbb Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Anyone know if the Viper Strike (a matching ledge) will fit onto the quarks? I suppose if the metal strip they provide doesn't fit something could be rigged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Not sure but I do know the grivel trigger does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurthicks Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I suppose if the metal strip they provide doesn't fit something could be rigged. that metal band is threaded for the screw that connects the Strike to the band. i think rigging something would be kind of challenging. BUT...the Viper shaft circumfrence and shape is similar to the quark just above the handle, so it may work by just bending the band to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 That would be cool if you could get the strike on there... the way the trigger attaches you can only use it as a finger support and not as a mantle/upper grip position as the bolt piece on the back sticks out. Wazzu: have you tried that? Read about anyone doing that? I heard BD was running low on strikes also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurthicks Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I have not tried it since I don't have Quarks. I'll see if I can dig up a pair today from my friend and try my Strikes on them. I'll let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 That would be great. Like Dave I need to know. With the Grivel Trigger did you use the large size (black)? Cheers, Ade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Large trigger. I believe the older model might take the regular size. Might be worth taking your tools into a shop and sizing on the spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC007 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I have seen the Black (large) triggers on the quarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 You could also look at the Grivel Slider ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC007 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 From pics its looks like House has them mounted on his Alp Wings teamed with the double spring leash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 (edited) Do you have a link to the photo? I can't say with out seeing the photo but I am willing to be he has the grivel horn: The alp wing now comes stock with it... Edited January 11, 2006 by John Frieh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 And Dave: if you are looking to match up on the tool but spend the majority of your time on the lower hand rest consider just adding a few wraps of hockey tape... I got a roll at play it again sports in town for my monsters and that stuff stays sticky even in the pouring rain. It keeps your tools protected too nicks and cuts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 From pics its looks like House has them mounted on his Alp Wings teamed with the double spring leash Is this the photo you are refering to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 Nope, strikes don't fit onto the quark's shaft. The metal band isn't long enough... also, it seems like the plastic thing wouldn't sit so well on the narrow anterior part of the quark shaft. oh well, I guess I'll wait until Petzl makes somethiing. John- thanks for the tip, I actually did just that a couple weeks ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC007 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 thats one of the pics I was thinking of. Dave if you add some climbing tape underneath were the trigger will sit it might sit better on the tool. I know someone with them I will give them a call and see how they rigged em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I know this is an old thread but I was looking for some of the Grivel Sliders today in the Internet and came across it. I added a Slider to my Quarks right at the top of the soft plastic handle. Took some effort to grind down the slider on the shaft side and file the bolt hole. Finally got it to bolt up tight, very tight. The slightly higher placement also allows you to use the hammer easily. It also gives more support to the hand or a finger than a trigger, with no worries on glove combinations, all that made it worth the effort of fitting for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_Husbands Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 how about strike on an old style cobra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrgo Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I tried just about every possible trigger configuration with the quark. Both grivel triggers will fit on the quark, but the black will give you more options with where you want it. I've tried doing the piano match on the trigger side, but you need to remove insulation from your gloves, climb with very thing gloves, or your hand just doesn't fit. The solution I found was to use a hack saw to remove the trigger, flip it around, put the plastic screw guards on and use those as the second grip. Suprisingly, it feels very comfortable and is about as effective as the strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 FWIW the plastic shelf on both the slider and the trigger are the same little 2 piece plastic part. You can cut and contour the plastic quite a bit and come up with a fairly usable support for hand and finger instead of the square block you first bolt on. I used a dremel drum sander and emory paper to shape mine. It made a big difference on support and comfort for any grip (finger or full hand) by making the edges round, and the shelf deeper and wider. The metal width of he band limits how thin you can make it overall vertically and still retain the strength of the plastic shelf. You can still cut it down some and make it more comfortable as a one finger "trigger". For anyone interested this is a great video showing details of Quarks and triggers and a few other tricks being used together on alpine terrain. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQBKR36R2c&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeoman Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 For anyone interested this is a great video showing details of Quarks and triggers and a few other tricks being used together on alpine terrain. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQBKR36R2c&feature=related Good video. Can anyone explain the technique used at 7:00? Looks like he has some loops attached to the upper shaft of his tools and he hooks them rather than sticking the ice with his second tool. Looks like right after that he has a finger hooked in those same loops. Seems like you could grab those loops a buncha different ways which could really help on long routes. Anyone ever used something like this? I'm in the process of re-working my Quarks, want to add tape, sliders and possibly some of those loops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montypiton Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 interesting observation, yeoman... I couldn't tell, but it seems like one could use them as hand support for the daggerring that was shown early on in the video. long as they're there, it would seem absurd not to use them for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Can anyone explain the technique used at 7:00? Looks like he has some loops attached to the upper shaft of his tools and he hooks them rather than sticking the ice with his second tool. Looks like right after that he has a finger hooked in those same loops. Seems like you could grab those loops a buncha different ways which could really help on long routes. He is using older Quarks with attachment holes on the shaft in different places....slighty lower than the newest tools so you can get the required bigger loops. A sewn loop (sewn while on the tool) and taped on the inside is used and works great just as you saw and described. I found for steep water ice it wasn't a very useful tool. But for steep (70/80 or less) alpine ice it would be awesome. Chamonix boys so they see a lot of that kind of terrain. A bolted high grip pretty much duplicates the ability to do it all except hang a pick in the loop to avoid a tool stack. In high dagger where these tools excel on moderte alpine terrain I suspect the loop was manly used to avoid dropping the tool while leashless. Umbilicals eliminate that need as well. I decided to stick with the umbilicals long term. The trigger he has added will do a real number on your index finger in cold weather...like tear a tendon off. Never a good idea to go full weight on the index finger which he is doing a lot. Remember this is a early video with Quarks (2003), the original tools (2000), and not using any of the Petzl factory bolted on grip supports and before umbilicals became common place. Stuff he is using are all Grivel parts modified to work on the Quark. But I'd like to be as cool as those guys obviously are! Awesome video isn't it? More here: http://www.alpinist.com/doc/ALP06/climbing-note-constant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpatterson5 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 I really like that idea though, if your wearing big mitts, seems like it offers a lot of support for AI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Two more good videos of awesome climbs for ideas on tool placements and use. http://www.tvmountain.com/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo&Itemid=117&video_id=1110 Tool stacks @ 8:00 and on by the old school dude in the gaiters and his buddy while they are on the ribbon are great http://www.tvmountain.com/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo&Itemid=117&video_id=272 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 cool video! looks like a dream day. and with a gondola ride down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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