billcoe Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 So you hear people like RuMR all the time saying things like, "I've been climbing for 20 years", etc. with the implication that because of that you should accept whatever assertion they happen to be making. I submit that it has almost no bearing on the reliability of their opinions other than to show they were around when a particular event might have occurred. I mean, some people by climbing very intensely with a large variety of partners can in a short time acquire a great deal of knowledge, for example Distel and Layton. Others who climb only occasionally and always with the same partners may have many years of experience but end up with a very narrow view of what's the proper way to do things. Shit, I think you need to deduct points when someones been doing it too long. Moi, for instance, at 33 some years of climbing, am starting to forget a hell of a lot of stuff I use to practice and train for as a pup. I think I'm even forgeting what I'm forgeting, thats how bad it is. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 put down the bong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 Shit, I think you need to deduct points when someones been doing it too long. Moi, for instance, at 33 some years of climbing, am starting to forget a hell of a lot of stuff I use to practice and train for as a pup. I think I'm even forgeting what I'm forgeting, thats how bad it is. Bill Yes, it's an old saw, but you've probably forgotten more than I've ever learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Some climbers are just, well, round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I would have to say that based on trip reports, you've been getting out, my friend. number of trip reports is absolutely the best criterion for evaluating someone's credibility and experience. spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekend_Climberz Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Others who climb only occasionally and always with the same partners may have many years of experience but end up with a very narrow view of what's the proper way to do things. I would say CBS is correct on this point. I've been climbing off and on around here since the early nineties and had my peak just out of high school many years back. I would say that since I have pretty much climbed with a small group of people that I don't have the experience that I would really like to have. But I think that could be said for most any hobby. For instance, every guitar player I have ever met, no matter how good, always bashes themselves about how much they suck or whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_warfield Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've been at it a while too (about the same as billco), but some of the things I learned should just as well be forgotten: how to tie a swami belt how to fall with a swami belt how to readjust my organs after falling with a swami belt how to dulfersitz rappel on 3/8" goldline how to readjust my organs after said rappel how to put cool knee patches on cord knickers how to wear painter's pants and flatcap to be like hot Henry how to use a 120' rope for rock climbing 150' routes how to use soft iron pitons how to climb with logging boots how to climb with stiff (and decidedly unsticky) rock shoes how to protect all climbs without cams etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 swami belt Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Matt's post really puts my organs out of adjustment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dru Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 stroking the yak? if he had any manners it would be the reacharound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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