first ascent [TR] South East Mox Peak- The Devil's Club, First Ascent of the East Face 9/1/2005

[Dru]

The ultimate anonymous hardman test is not to say anything, when someone rap bolts a route you free soloed years ago, and calls it a first ascent.

[Alex]

Maybe the mythical, zen-like, anonymous-hardman actually exists, and spares no efforts in his zeal to conceal his talents and obscure evidence of his many first-ascents, but if such a person does exist, he would:

 

1) Never even let anyone know that he was a climber.

2) Never take the opportunity to publically remind the world that he eschewed both attention and praise by stating, over-and-over, "I climb for myself, man. For me. Not for you not the magazines - no one." Such an individual would certainly not make it a point to write letters or posts on internet sites in which he took pains to criticize the motivations of other people for letting the world know about their routes, and to remind everyone that his motivations are infinitely more pure and noble.

 

His name is Peter Doorish.

[layton]

yeah, but you wouldn't know that Alex if he was that cool. and his routes wouldn't be in the beckey guide either.

 

larry has a great point. the world is no better place.

and dru's right when he says only uber alpine geeks care.

 

all i did was go climbing and wrote a story about it.

Edited September 17, 2005 by michael_layton

[Dru]

but it was a good story

[ashw_justin]

is it okay to climb for money and bitches?

[ivan]

no, but climbing for hebrew national hotdogs n' hummers is kosher

[knelson]

Erik & Mike...

 

Congrats for getting out there and having fun... and being able to write about it later. You guys know why you climbed, and that's all that really should matter. But what I reaallllly want to know is...

 

... Mike - have you trademarked the term "The Devil's Club" yet, as it pertains to routes on the East face of Mox Peak? If you're gonna do the shirts for the winter tour, you best cover your ass. If I remember Mr. Dirtbag's picture correctly, I think he looked like he might have an in with someone in the Devil's Club already.

 

-kurt

[bwrts]

Maybe the mythical, zen-like, anonymous-hardman actually exists, and spares no efforts in his zeal to conceal his talents and obscure evidence of his many first-ascents, but if such a person does exist, he would:

 

1) Never even let anyone know that he was a climber.

2) Never take the opportunity to publically remind the world that he eschewed both attention and praise by stating, over-and-over, "I climb for myself, man. For me. Not for you not the magazines - no one." Such an individual would certainly not make it a point to write letters or posts on internet sites in which he took pains to criticize the motivations of other people for letting the world know about their routes, and to remind everyone that his motivations are infinitely more pure and noble.

 

His name is Peter Doorish.

There are many people who do this and don't even tell about their exploits.

 

Mox does look like a cool mt of trashy bad rock.

More people should go there. Then the good rocks will be less crowded.

[layton]

Thanks all, especially "bwrts" for your enlightening comments. Now, lets let this thread quitely die in peace!

[knotzen]

but if such a person does exist, he would:

 

1) Never even let anyone know that he was a climber.

2) Never take the opportunity to publically remind the world that he eschewed both attention and praise by stating, over-and-over, "I climb for myself, man. For me. Not for you not the magazines - no one." Such an individual would certainly not make it a point to write letters or posts on internet sites in which he took pains to criticize the motivations of other people for letting the world know about their routes, and to remind everyone that his motivations are infinitely more pure and noble.

There are many people who do this and don't even tell about their exploits.

 

Mox does look like a cool mt of trashy bad rock.

More people should go there. Then the good rocks will be less crowded.

For God's fucking sake, I cannot believe the pettiness of some of you guys. You sound like a bunch of five-year-olds, putting down other boys to scramble to the top of the recess social pyramid. What the fuck?? Do you have any idea how immature and petty you sound? I can't believe these things are said with a straight face. Holy fucking shit. I'm just incredulous.

 

(Sorry, Mike; I needed to say that.)

[layton]

that's ok, i know bwrts, and he apparently suffered some brain damage in the womb

[catbirdseat]

Oh, I stand corrected. I was assuming all along he'd been dropped on his head as a wee lad.

[Dru]

Is it petty to say it's choss? Hell no. IT IS CHOSS!

 

"American climbers are no good because they only climb good rock - not bad rock" - some Slovenian.

[EWolfe]

No shit. That's a great quote.

 

I am SO over Mox, BTW.

[Off_White]

I just wanted to change the subject line.

[chucK]

Awesome, great job on the climb and the report.

 

And junior, funny thing about spraying is, it's better to spray about something you have climbed, versus something you haven't. And when you see your mother this weekend, tell her...

[bwrts]

knotzen, I rarely say anything with a straight face. Life is entertaining and most people are so fuking serious about everything..... FYI-I am not belittling any feat, but really I find it entertaining to state the obvious, sometimes it is something many people are afraid of saying...

 

mike, you are welcome but I must add, we met once, and that does not mean you know me. perhaps we should go cragging...down in that dreamlike place near portland.

 

cbs, as always, you never cease to amaze me with your superior brilliance.

and with that, time to go see how far the joker shoring crew has drilled now.

[layton]

bwrts,

doooooood, you can't complain about folks taking things seriously, then in turn get fussy and take what they say seriously.

 

seriously!

plus erik and i just went to the bar, we didn't climb it actually.

[bwrts]

seriously!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

OH FUCK!!

[Dru]

you sure fooled the Mags

 

Just wait till the Frogs give you the Piolet d'Or and then you say "Ha ha, we pulled a Cesen on ya!"

[JoshK]

For the love of god, let this poor fucking thread die...it hasn't been about climbing for a while now.

[ivan]

ah, the pathetic pleading for death post - a sure sign that this whole thing will now shift into hyperdrive and go for at least another 5 pages!

[layton]

hey, i'm back in portland and begining to nest at Pete's house.

so anyone who has any extra tp or paper towel rolls, please donate them so i can chew them up and create a great little nest for me to bed down in.

[wayne]

Was that your nest Lane found in his basement?

[layton]

uhhh....errrr...NEST! yeah! that's what i left in lane's basement, a nest. hehe. uhhh, don't go poking under any floorboards or anything.