Difficulty Pole

[texplorer]

After seeing that a 20 yr old girl can climb everest post I was curious. . . ..

Edited June 7, 2005 by texplorer

[Cobra_Commander]

How about the Kona Ironman or an olympic qualifying 400m?

[texplorer]

Or. . . . .

[Dru]

If the North and South Poles are the first two poles, and Everest is the "third pole", then what is the "difficulty pole"? Olympus Mons without oxygen or booster rockets?

[Cobra_Commander]

I can't answer that question cause my brain hurts after being in a role over accident.

[Dru]

I think you can't answer that question because you are too busy listening to that Holl album.

[Cobra_Commander]

It's nat cing coll actually

[texplorer]

Silly Dru,

Here's where all the Poles are.

 

[AlpineK]

You've got an apple and orange kind of thing going here.

 

Everest is harder than a marathon and harder than an Iron Man Triathalon, it might be harder than that race they have across Death Valley, but it isn't as hard as crossing antartica by human power.

 

I don't think you can compare it to technical climbs other than to say that it is more glamorous than any of the climbs you listed.

[Dru]

Man I hope that US Charitable Airlift to bring Vowels to Europe gets over to Poland soon. You can still see the sad effects of wartime rationing.

[Cobra_Commander]

It isn't just Eastern Europe either. Wales still suffers to this day.

[Phil K]

I just can't stand to see those Wales suffer, they're such big, intellegent, peaceful creatures.

[Dru]

It isn't just Eastern Europe either. Wales still suffers to this day.

 

You'd suffer too if your Prince had dumbo ears.

[Cobra_Commander]

They are like the UN ambassadors of the see.

[Gary_Yngve]

When you say "climb," what style?

 

Having other people haul all your weight, do the leading, etc., is a big difference from being entirely self-sufficient. Clearly for Everest the implication is guided with porters and oxygen. But what about the other climbs you are suggesting? Self-sufficient or relying on guides?

[Stefan]

After seeing that a 20 yr old girl can climb everest post I was curious. . . ..

 

Why does climbing one objective to another objective have to be more difficult than the other?

 

Why can't the climbs just be different and leave it at that?

 

I have a firefighter friend who climbed The Tooth. He still rates that as one of the most difficult things he has done--and is still proud of doing it.

[Gary_Yngve]

Does anyone else hate it when the press says that someone "conquered" Everest? Mountains don't get conquered. Though if you leave your junk all over it, then maybe the word conquer is justified, as you basically raped and pillaged the mountain.

[Dru]

By the numbers

# of ascents of Da Toof: millions

# of ascents of Everest: thousands

# of ascents of all 14 8000m peaks: 13 with Al Hinkes' completion last week

# of redpoint ascents of Realization: 3

# of solo ascents of Astroman: 2

# of climbers to complete Southern Pickets Traverse: 3

# of climbers to climb Back of Beyond Buttress : 2

# of humans to travel to Mars: 0

# of humans to make free ascents of The Nose: 1

 

[Cobra_Commander]

if you leave your junk all over it ... you basically raped and pillaged the mountain.

 

I thought pillaging involved taking things away.

[tomtom]

Everest isn't close to one of the most commercialized peaks. Rainier has thousands of folks hauled up there each year.

[Dru]

if you leave your junk all over it ... you basically raped and pillaged the mountain.

 

I thought pillaging involved taking things away.

 

Ya, leaving junk would be more like Xmasing than pillaging.

 

"Happy Birthday Everest! We brought you these oxygen cylinders!"

[Cobra_Commander]

and frozen feces cake!

[tomtom]

And dead bodies!

[thelawgoddess]

lynn hill rocks!

[mec]

# of humans to make free ascents of The Nose: 1

 

Isn't this 1 and a half. Scotty Burke freed it, yeah one pitch was on top rope, but I'd consider that half.

 

Lynn Hill did it more than once though, and in under 24 hours....