Off_White Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 There ya go Trask, that's back in form! Chips, Tyrone, we're really talking climbing here not Anna's aside about flying. VFR, DFA, BFD. Gee, she doesn't know as much about flying as you do, she must suck. And to think Retro gets shit about being arrogant and insensitive.... Quote
Tyrone_Shoes Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 TRASK, I gather from your reply that you're very intelligent. ANNA, You might want to look closer at your defence. Quote
Tyrone_Shoes Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 OFF WHITE, Search deeper for the message, We are all ignorant about shit. Forget about the rudness. What's better? hey... you almost killed yourself, better watch out next time. or HEY ! YOU AMOST KILLED YOURSELF IDIOT ! DON"T COME BACK TIL YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING !!! Quote
Mr._Chips Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Don't you understand the original message that Tyrone sent? He is bringing to light the 'attitude' that Anna has and how it can be dangerous when you have it while doing dangerous activities (ie climbing and flying). It's quite obvious that she thinks and truly believes that she knows more than she does, this can be dangerous. Talking about knowing so much about flying and merely in training mode. C'mon guys, it's pretty crystal clear - unsubstantiated EGO. Quote
Anna Posted November 2, 2002 Author Posted November 2, 2002 WOW...way to take a quote and run with it Mr Chip-on-his-shoulder. Did I say I was an accomplished pilot? Did I not mention that I was still training in a 152? That was to imply that it was something I knew quite a bit about, MORE SO THAN CLIMBING!!!....but still a beginner. Man I guess I shouldn't have been nice, I don't want to fly with you either. I was thinking that maybe you could show me a thing or two about it but forget it. You fuck...you don't even know me and I certainly don't ever want to know you! O.K. I will rephrase it then you son-of-a-bitch....I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING! No I don't have my commercial, in fact I did my first solo today and it felt FUCKIN cool, my instructor said I rocked his world too on my landings. Not that you even FUCKING care you negative prick. I know there is a lot to know about flying AND climbing....I have already said that time and again...sheesh...BUZZKILL! I am going out and celebrating my milestone day... Quote
snoboy Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Anna: WOW...way to take a quote and run with it Mr Chip-on-his-shoulder. Did I say I was an accomplished pilot? Did I not mention that I was still training in a 152? That was to imply that it was something I knew quite a bit about, MORE SO THAN CLIMBING!!!....but still a beginner. [snip] I am going out and celebrating my milestone day... Don't let them get to you Anna. Enjoy your own accomplishments. You take me flying one day, I'll take you climbing. quote: Originally posted by Mr. Chips: I would not climb with Anna or fly with her either for that matter. She just said she knows SO MUCH about flying, BUT she is still training in a 152. RED FLAG. Actually she said "quite a bit" not "so much." I bet she knows a hell of lot more than me. I'd rather climb with someone who has had experiences and learned from them than a pompous ass. quote: Originally posted by Mr. Chips: C'mon guys, it's pretty crystal clear - unsubstantiated EGO. Or maybe it's just a love of what she's learning. [ 11-01-2002, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: snoboy ] Quote
freeclimb9 Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Anna: WOW...Mr Chip-on-his-shoulder...Man...You fuck...you son-of-a-bitch...FUCKIN...FUCKING...prick. BUZZKILL! Quote
vegetablebelay Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: quote:Originally posted by Anna: WOW...Mr Chip-on-his-shoulder...Man...You fuck...you son-of-a-bitch...FUCKIN...FUCKING...prick. BUZZKILL! Man, all these hot-headed pilot types! Quote
Mr._Chips Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Yes, stating that you know 'quite a bit' about something lends to the idea that you are experienced. How was the water anyway? Quote
Off_White Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Tyrone: I don't need to dig through your pile for the odd undigested kernal of corn. Anna started the thread effectively saying "I almost killed myself, what should I do different?" Of the two models of communication you offered, I'd choose the first. While yelling, shame, and insults might work for training a dog, its a piss poor way to talk to a stranger who's aware of her errors and requesting constructive criticism. Where you and Chips perceive a cocky attitude that needs to be smacked, I see someone trying to process fear with a bit of humor. If I said "I know nothing about being a pool shark, but damn I can hit a ping pong ball with a wild backhand swing" do you think I'm really asserting that I can hold my own against a member of the Chinese national team? You've got all the charm and charisma of Agent Orange/Crazy Polish Bob, is it any wonder that a range of people are suggesting in their individual styles that you STFU? Quote
Tyrone_Shoes Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Anna, You just don't get it...you know what, forget it, disregard. Congradulations on your solo! Take care. Quote
snoboy Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Tyrone Shoes: Anna, You just don't get it...you know what, forget it, disregard. Congradulations on your solo! Take care. I guess a bunch of other people don't either? Quote
Off_White Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Dude, its the internet, we're all pretty insubstantial. Experience suggests that we're much more polite in the flesh, I didn't see a single eye-gouging hair-pulling fist-swinging tussle at the entire rope up. Quote
vegetablebelay Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by snoboy: quote:Originally posted by Tyrone Shoes: Anna, You just don't get it...you know what, forget it, disregard. Congradulations on your solo! Take care. I guess a bunch of other people don't either? Just heapin' on a little more humblin' is all. Quote
Mr._Chips Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 HEY SHRED, keep in mind while reading, those are experiences that you do NOT want to emulate, I repeat, do NOT want to emulate. Quote
bolt_clipper Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Jesus Christ, guys, mellow out. I think it's time to start a new thread where we can bitch at/about each other. Quote
iain Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Tyrone Shoes, Mr. Chips = two peas in a pod! you heard it hear first folks! both canada, reg 9/02! you guys are being trolled my friends, enjoy I got through canada and am now finishing alaska in ANAM. Quote
Tyrone_Shoes Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Yeah, no shit, we're good friends, we signed up on the same day. good work though Columbo. Quote
iain Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Columbo! excellent jab. Sincerely, Chuck Yeager Quote
allthumbs Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Tyrone and Chips, You two dudes are really cool. I want to be like you when I grow up. Keep the faith brothers and keep spreading the love. Later, trask [ 11-01-2002, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: trask ] Quote
Off_White Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 Trask, are you making a bid to become a moderator? Quote
allthumbs Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 No, I decided not to call them stupid cock suckers with shit for brains. I'm trying not to be so rude, but when fucksticks like these two chodes show up, all I can think about is how cool it'd be to slam their nutz in a vice. But I'm not going to say that. Quote
pindude Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Off White: Dude, its the internet, we're all pretty insubstantial. Experience suggests that we're much more polite in the flesh, I didn't see a single eye-gouging hair-pulling fist-swinging tussle at the entire rope up. So true. I walked away earlier today from what I thought was a pretty interesting thread about learning from such an experience and how to get back on the trad horse; coming back this eve and WHOA!, I see all shit broke loose! Glad that Anna and Shredmax can see above it all. I didn't make the L-worth gig, but I fer sure gotta make the next rope-up. Cheers Quote
sayjay Posted November 2, 2002 Posted November 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by shredmaximus: Seriously though...what do people think of rapping vs lowering off a questionable anchor? It seems to me rapping would be the way to go but what do I know??? well, if an anchor is shakey in a way that jostling the pieces around could make them come out, then the process of switching from being on belay to being on rappell could make your anchor pull. i'd stick with lowering: the less time you spend farting around on a weak anchor the better... also, if you *had to* have a bad anchor because you are in a spot that doesn't take gear well but there's a spot below you that does take gear well, you could be lowered to that point, set a few good pieces, and clip the rope there. so if your upper anchor blows you'll fall on the lower anchor. all pretty desperate stuff, tho, that i'd rather avoid having to think about in the first place... Quote
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