fenderfour Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Opposing the Iraqi war has really won a place in the hearts of the terrorist groups. Story I think we can now see what kind of people we are really dealing with here. Yeah, they just want the US out of Iraq, right... Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 It's no surprise to me... You can't reason with fanatics like that. Quote
murraysovereign Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 You can't reason with fanatics like that. You mean the terrorists, or the French? Quote
catbirdseat Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 They will learn what germinates from the seeds of appeasment. Quote
bird Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 It might not be a bad move on the terrorists part. It could be just enough to convince France to surrender unconditionally. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Very true ---- Cecile Pozzo di Borgo, spokeswoman of the French Foreign Ministry..[dit]. [T]he spokeswoman reiterated her country's call for efforts to seek a "political solution" to the Iraqi crisis, adding that "the organization of free and democratic elections would permit to get together conditions of a real political and economic reconstruction of Iraq". France has opposed the US-led Iraq war and has no troops in Iraq. This suggests that the French diplomats are attempting to link the release of the French hostages to changes in the method and manner in which the Iraqi elections will be held. The mere fact that France is negotiating implictly means there will be a quid for the quo. Paying tribute is all part of the nuanced foreign policy of former great states. But whether the French ante up with secret political concessions or payouts, the result will be the same. More Americans and Iraqis will die as the price of French appeasement. Yet the French will not escape the carnivorous attentions of the terrorists in the end. Promises by blackguards are made to be broken. The trick is to know that and the French have forgotten. Americans at least, have old Arnold Schwarzennegger movies to remind them.His character in the 1985 movie Commando holds a villain by the ankle over a cliff and this bit of dialogue ensues: Arnold to thug: "Hey Sully, remember when I promised to kill you last?" Thug: "Yeah, man! You said that!" Arnold drops the man. Arnold: "I lied." Quote
Rodchester Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 You can't reason with fanatics like that. You mean the terrorists, or the French? Quote
AlpineK Posted August 31, 2004 Posted August 31, 2004 Lets try and keep in mind that we have 2 somewhat seperate issues here. France hasn't drawn the ire of Muslims for their stand on Iraq, but they have pissed them off all on their own with the ban on headscarves in french school classrooms. Don't forget that the US has quite a history of running away from terrorists. If you doubt me look up the events around the bombing of the marines in Beruit. Who was president you may ask...that tough macho republican Ronald Reagan. Quote
fenderfour Posted August 31, 2004 Author Posted August 31, 2004 My point wasn't the French, it was the lengths that the terrorists would go to in order to get whatever they want. 1. Banning headscarves is ridiculous. 2. Killing innocent people because someone else banned headscarves is even more ridiculous. I think that this has happened because the terrorists have seen at least one country yield to their pressure. Now that they know their tactics will work, where will it end? Quote
AlpineK Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Well like I said; the US has a long history of caving to terrorists. Quote
j_b Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 I think we can now see what kind of people we are really dealing with here. which people are we dealing with here? do we really know? moreover, was there ever any doubts about the nature of fundamentalist extremists? Yeah, they just want the US out of Iraq, right... it is what the immense majority of iraqis want. the sooner it's done, the lesser the legitimacy for extremists. One has to be amazed at the brilliance of PP's post. perhaps he should blame the neocons instead of the french for the death of american troops. but i must say that quoting an aaahhhnold hollywood script to justify warmongering takes the cake. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 One has to be amazed at the brilliance of PP's post. perhaps he should blame the neocons instead of the french for the death of american troops. but i must say that quoting an aaahhhnold hollywood script to justify warmongering takes the cake. LOL You are such a goofball. Hey who's that on TV - soon to walk to the podium - why it's...it's...... Ahhhhnold! Quote
AlpineK Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Yes I heard Arnold speak, and now he's on my list of people who need to be visited by the borax 20 mule team. Quote
Doug Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 With the kidnappings, the French have raised their national terror alert from Run to Hide. THere are only to higher levels of warning - Surrender & Collaborate. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Wasn't Borax a sponser of Death Valley Days.....? ANd who was on that... My MAN RONNIE! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 French politics - man they have porn star sluts in office there don't they? Quote
AlpineK Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Do they...I hope so...please provide details and more importantly pictures. Quote
scott_harpell Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 which people are we dealing with here? do we really know? moreover, was there ever any doubts about the nature of fundamentalist extremists? I think you answered your own question there ace. Quote
fenderfour Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 "We never should have attacked Iraq" "What about WMD?" "What WMD?" "Bush sucks" "Kerry is a pussy" "Cheney is Satan" "You're dumb" "No, you're dumb" I think I've seen this conversation somewhere before... Quote
fenderfour Posted September 1, 2004 Author Posted September 1, 2004 One more thing - I think we should kidnap a bunch of Muslims and threaten to kill them unless Iran allows miniskirts and halter tops to be worn in schools. Quote
Greg_W Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 With the kidnappings, the French have raised their national terror alert from Run to Hide. THere are only to higher levels of warning - Surrender & Collaborate. Quote
Greg_W Posted September 1, 2004 Posted September 1, 2004 Tell that to Greenpeace. Greenpeace sucks. Quote
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