allthumbs Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 Screw it, somebody else can have page top. Quote
allthumbs Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 Oh, I just realized I got it again. E-ha Quote
Off_White Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 HA  Hah  heh  hmmm  *sigh*  [ 08-22-2002, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: Off White ] Quote
Peter_Puget Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: Now we're really getting into semantic mince-meat.... Â "All-around 5.11 climbers" can be shown 5.11s that they would piss their collective pants on. Â Which begs the question: What does it mean to be a solid 5.11 climber? If'n ya don't can't won't do a certain 5.11, ya ain't a "all-around 5.11 climber"? Well it does beg the question somewhat. What I would say is that those 5.11s one can't/won't climb would be "few." Â quote: PP: The term "few" places some conditional limits on a given context, regardless of one's peripatetic reasoning.... If I know a "few" climbers, this would limit that sample pool to perhaps 5 in size. Now if a few of those climb X, Y, or Z, "few" would still denote a number which the term refers to: Â "Amounting to or consisting of a small number: one of my few bad habits. Being more than one but indefinitely small in number: bowled a few strings." (per www.dictionary.com) Â So given this sordid state of affairs, ALL of my 5.13 climber buds could be "all-around 5.11 climbers", since the sample pool is but a "few".... Â Ummmm....so there. Well it is nice if they all are. That still doesn't change my argument anymore than the probability of having "heads" come up the next time you flip a coin changes after it comes up heads 10 times in a row just before the flip in question. Â But I do question your use of the dictionary. It is not the word "few" that enables you to not be inconsistent by now claiming that ALL your 5.13 friends are solid all-around 5.11 leaders. But your previous use of the word "least". Here it is: at least a few of the 5.13 climbers I know are quite good on trad, with 5.12 gear on-sight abilities. Â Please less time in the gym and more in school! Â By the way any volunteers to tow me up Mary's Tears/Crucifx? Â PP Quote
Peter_Puget Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 Alright Sexy you had me sweating there. I had to back and see jus twhat I wrote! It was "most sportos who climb 5.13" Ambiguous to be sure but ambiguity saved me. To be clearer: I would add the word "routes" right after 5.13! Â Now I wish you never came back! Â Cheers PP Quote
Attitude Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 Is there a point to this 12 page thread? Â Or is that a stupid question? Quote
Thinker Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 Hey Attitude, check your PM. got the info you wanted.... Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Attitude: Is there a point to this 12 page thread? Â Or is that a stupid question? No and yes, respectively. Quote
iain Posted August 22, 2002 Posted August 22, 2002 Â [ 08-22-2002, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: iain ] Quote
Attitude Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by fleblebleb: Snuck in... A little too early... Quote
Attitude Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Thinker: Hey Attitude, check your PM. got the info you wanted.... Thanks for the info. Â Hey, does anyone's counter on the PM thing work? Mine doesn't register new PM's on the cc homepage. Quote
richard_noggin Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 Originally posted by erik: [qb]rumur,  my friend whom i was apprently selling like his agent??! (kiss my ass bone) does not crank on plastic nor does he train for specifics....he is a climber and climbs....i am certainly jealous not of his ability, but his drive to constantly make himself better thru doing......  werd to all climbers!!  That dude was seen crank'in on plastic at Olympia rock gym for years and you better ask him about his pully system finger training machine he built  [ 08-22-2002, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: richard noggin ] Quote
Peter_Puget Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002  Sorry for the thread drift. Back to Godzilla now. Singing  [ 08-22-2002, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: Peter Puget ] Quote
Off_White Posted August 23, 2002 Posted August 23, 2002 Oh Peter, its Mothra's Pit Crew! I knew all those sunday matinees were time well spent. Too bad you don't have a sound file attached too... Quote
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