Stavrogin Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Will the Petzl Ultralight Pulley work with the BD Oval Wiregate Caribiner? Quote
cj001f Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Much better: Â It'll work with most biners you own, unlike the Ultralegere, which may fit on a biner, but won't rotate. Quote
Illini Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Works with but it also works with  Which is cool because I own some and they are lighter (barely).  NOLSE, I remember us having a hard time slipping the pulley unto the nose of the BD oval wire? Quote
John Frieh Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Though a snug fit on the standard gate BD oval; it does fit and function. The wire gate is even easier to fit the pulley onto. Quote
Dru Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 fat asses should not neglect the fact that the ultralight has a safe working load of only about 80kg or something Quote
Stavrogin Posted August 19, 2004 Author Posted August 19, 2004 how does that compare to the safe working load of the oscillante? Quote
iain Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 fat asses should not neglect the fact that the ultralight has a safe working load of only about 80kg or something  Well that's pretty silly, because with a pack on a glacier, that's a pretty easy weight to reach. By giving a SWL, that seems to imply it would break at a higher value. Quote
Dru Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 well that's why it is for "emergency use only". you'd probably be better off using a dmm revolver biner than a petzl ultralegere. Quote
iain Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Ohh, so if it's an emergency, it becomes stronger. Excellent news! I suppose if it does break, it just drops down on to the carabiner, which is not a catastrophe. Â I've always laughed at Petzl's "not for organized rescues" line for some of their pulleys. As long as you are completely disorganized on a rescue, their gear will work fine! Quote
Dru Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 I'm thinking what they mean is that if your regular pulley breaks its better to use the ultralight than use nothing.... just like if you suddenly dropped all your other biners it would be ok to use one of those "not for climbing" keychain biners rather than nothing at all. Quote
selkirk Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 One thing to watch is that that system (pulley wheel and biner) won't tend a prusik, so if your pulley settup is backed up directly to the anchor is could be a problem. Quote
erewhon Posted August 20, 2004 Posted August 20, 2004 Used this combo while on Denali a few years back. When placed under load the pully cracked, snapped, and shattered due to the temperatures. Also damaged the rope sheath. If youre in an emergency just use a DOval Kairbiner, and a tiblock. Safer, Stronger, Lighter, Better. Quote
Dr_Crash Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 I like the Mini myself: Â Â More weight obviously, but sealed bearings are a good thing to reduce friction. Looks like it will mind prusiks nicely, though I haven't tried that by itself (learned to use my belay device to mind the prusik instead). Â drC Quote
IceIceBaby Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 I have this puppy and I think this is the bomb really strong and light IMHO CMI makes the best Ascenders and Pulleys around Quote
Dr_Crash Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 0.15 grams! Wow. I'll carry three of these anyday  Seriously... I've seen it listed at 61 g which is great (the Mini is 80 g), and it's $10 less than the price of mine ($20 instead of $32). Not bad. Bigger sheave and bigger breaking load (not sure about working load). Not prusik minding but that's fine by most people.  drC Quote
catbirdseat Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 Ohh, so if it's an emergency, it becomes stronger. Excellent news! I suppose if it does break, it just drops down on to the carabiner, which is not a catastrophe. I've always laughed at Petzl's "not for organized rescues" line for some of their pulleys. As long as you are completely disorganized on a rescue, their gear will work fine! Of course they must mean SAR rescue. I'm just speculating, but I think they are referring to the situation where a second is sent down to aid the injured climber in the crevasse and the two of them are pulled out together. Obviously, that is a huge load. Quote
iain Posted August 24, 2004 Posted August 24, 2004 I think it's just the usual rear-covering non-speak. If there is a reason to pick up a sub-80kg load in an "organized" rescue, than the thing would work just fine in an "organized" rescue. No one in their right mind would use this silly little thing for hauling a "traditional" 280kg rescue load (BCCTR) when it supposedly barely hauls 1 person (80kg). Quote
IceIceBaby Posted August 25, 2004 Posted August 25, 2004 0.15 grams! Wow. I'll carry three of these anyday  Seriously... I've seen it listed at 61 g which is great (the Mini is 80 g), and it's $10 less than the price of mine ($20 instead of $32). Not bad. Bigger sheave and bigger breaking load (not sure about working load). Not prusik minding but that's fine by most people.  drC  Yeah they got a little silly with the weights translation to Kg but anyway here is the Prusik minding pulley Quote
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