Fairweather Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 (edited) This photo was taken today over Baghdad and posted as a header for another story on the FOX website. Anyone find the skyline interesting? Comments? Edited June 22, 2004 by Fairweather Quote
Beck Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Are we helping to rebuild a mosque? Or is that a sports stadium? Bagdad for the 2012 summer olympics!!! Quote
gotterdamerung Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 This photo was taken today over Baghdad and posted as a header for another story on the FOX website. Anyone find the skyline interesting? Comments? Â This is what we call the monster mosque. It was yet another huge palace that was being built using the funds that could have been used to help the Iraqi people under Saddam's rule. Â Quote
dberdinka Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Another house of worship built with public funding, to think how 400 million could help the American people... Â Quote
gotterdamerung Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Are you REALLY comparing the building of yet another mosque built by a bankrupt nation without any kind of public approval to the building of a taxed and subsidized sports structure by a major corporation? Apples and oranges. Quote
catbirdseat Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Really. That stadium was approved by at least 51% of those who voted. Apples and Oranges. Quote
gotterdamerung Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Baath Party HQ (marble staircase)  Front entrance to Baath Party HQ  Precision JDAM strike  Aftermath JDAM Quote
CascadeClimber Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Really. That stadium was approved by at least 51% of those who voted. Apples and Oranges. Â IIRC, it was voted down. But the state legislature taxed us and built it anyway. What's worse: Getting no vote, or having your vote ignored? Quote
dberdinka Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Are you REALLY comparing the building of yet another mosque built by a bankrupt nation without any kind of public approval to the building of a taxed and subsidized sports structure by a major corporation? Apples and oranges. Â Yes, I am. Check what Loren wrote, I thought the stadium construction had gone down something like that. Â My point being is to question why a giant public works project in Iraq is somehow immoral compared to a giant public works project in the U.S.? Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Just checking in here onece in a while and have to comment on the genius Work of Loren and Darin. I am sure they have tons of intelligent and or liberal backing here on this board to spew in their defense. Â I see it - the starving poor and opressed people of Seattle and Wa and the relation of the sports stadiums is on par with Iraqui Mosques their people and Govt buildings there too. Quote
Dru Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 how long till the first fremont bike parade in baghdad??? Quote
gotterdamerung Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 My point being is to question why a giant public works project in Iraq is somehow immoral compared to a giant public works project in the U.S.? Â One of the big differences being that YOU have the freedom to question it. If you were asking the same questions just like this one in Saddam's Iraq there is a fairly good chance you would be dead already from this mornings postings. Or in Abu Ghraib when they REALLY tortured people there. Â I took notice when the corrupt legislature in this state overrode the voters and did what they wanted to anyway. I am not condoning it, but i think it is a FAR cry from a starving nation under sanctions and ruled by a Totelitarian regime having another mosque put up for ONE man's vanity rather than a stadium that is filled with people of all races, religions, and genders watching a ball game for enjoyment. Quote
jon Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 I don't care that we had to pay for the stadium but $7.50 for a beer is downright wrong. Thank god Pyramid is next door. Quote
gotterdamerung Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 I don't care that we had to pay for the stadium but $7.50 for a beer is downright wrong. Thank god Pyramid is next door. Â Hell yeah! Pyramid! I've never been to the stadium. I refuse to go there. I didn't vote for it and baseball keeps all the riff-raff down in the city sitting in traffic where they belong. Quote
murraysovereign Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 Why was someone as secular as Saddam building bloody great huge mosques anyhow? What part of "secular" didn't he understand? Quote
CascadeClimber Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 One of the big differences being that YOU have the freedom to question it. If you were asking the same questions just like this one in Saddam's Iraq there is a fairly good chance you would be dead already from this mornings postings. Or in Abu Ghraib when they REALLY tortured people there. I took notice when the corrupt legislature in this state overrode the voters and did what they wanted to anyway. I am not condoning it, but i think it is a FAR cry from a starving nation under sanctions and ruled by a Totelitarian regime having another mosque put up for ONE man's vanity rather than a stadium that is filled with people of all races, religions, and genders watching a ball game for enjoyment.  Good point.  I was not making a 1:1 comparison between being a citizen of Iraq under Saddam and being a citizen of Washington state under a runaway state legislature, though looking at what I wrote I can see how it could read that way.  For the record, I actually agree with removing Saddam from power, I just disagree with the methods, timing, and justification.  Ray, you'd be surprised by how right-leaning I am on some issues, fiscal policy and social programs among others.  -L Quote
Ratboy Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 Why was someone as secular as Saddam building bloody great huge mosques anyhow? What part of "secular" didn't he understand? Â From what I remember hearing/reading, he was using religion to strengthen and consolidate his power by associating himself with it. Quote
Dru Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 i thought he was hiding his wmd in the mosques and thats why the had to be so big. he was gonna destroy the world with global warming. the wmd was a lot of hot air. Quote
cracked Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 Wouldn't your spray then be the demise of mankind, Dru? Quote
Dru Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 this is only virtual hot air  if you beat your chest in cyberspace can anyone hear you? Quote
Beck Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 So, who's rebuilding the mosques now? American dollars after we blew them up, or Iraqi money so the public can have places to worship after we blew them up? Quote
cj001f Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 So, who's rebuilding the mosques now? American dollars after we blew them up, or Iraqi money so the public can have places to worship after we blew them up? Judging by the heavy layer of dust covering all the construction equipment in the picture (and the vertical tanks turned horizontal) I'd say not much of anything's being done at that site. Quote
Skeezix Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 Or in Abu Ghraib when they REALLY tortured people there. Â Didn't I see reports that one or more Iraqi detainees died at the the hands of their American captors in AGP? There's a contractor on trial for a death.... Quote
Bronco Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 Or in Abu Ghraib when they REALLY tortured people there. Â Didn't I see reports that one or more Iraqi detainees died at the the hands of their American captors in AGP? There's a contractor on trial for a death.... Â I'm pretty sure that was in Afganistan. Quote
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