SublimeSalamander Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 Does anybody have any suggestions for cheap but reliable bail biners? Quote
Fromage Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 I just recycle the ones I find. Hard to beat that price. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 i carry 'biners that i've found, but last summer i also started carrying quicklinks (like below). useful for both setting up rap anchors and bailing. definitely much cheaper than 'biners and you can buy 'em as beefy as you want. any hardware store should carry a selection. Quote
lummox Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 aint there some axiom shizzle about always having to bail if you carry bailing gear? Quote
Skip_M._Kliphiem Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 If you think like a Lummox, you will become a lummox. Â Quick links. Quote
EWolfe Posted May 3, 2004 Posted May 3, 2004 I always keep a few smi-retired biners around for just that purpose. Â I definitely WOULD NOT TRUST FOUND 'BINERS WITH MY LIFE. Quote
dylan_taylor Posted May 3, 2004 Posted May 3, 2004 I trust most found biners with my life but I look them over real close first. There sure are a lot of them out there. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted May 3, 2004 Posted May 3, 2004 I definitely WOULD NOT TRUST FOUND 'BINERS WITH MY LIFE. aid climbing has taught me to trust a lot of "shit" i would have been skeptical about before. Quote
thrutch Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 I belive Black Diamond/ Chris Harmston did some testing in relation to biners that were scooped from the base of El Cap and if my fading memory serves me right something like 99% of them passed all tests that new biners are subjected to. Â Lawgoddess, aid climbing has taught me to place protection better in general, I personally do not think that I would subject myself or my partner to a placement that I hold no confidence in. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 Lawgoddess, aid climbing has taught me to place protection better in general, I personally do not think that I would subject myself or my partner to a placement that I hold no confidence in. same here. it's just that when i first started leading trad even a brand-spanking-new #4 camalot seemed kind of scary to trust my life to ... but a couple of years later, while doing my first wall, i was amazed to discover that i deemed rather tiny brass nuts with fraying wires totally trustworthy. Quote
Stephen_Ramsey Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 I belive Black Diamond/ Chris Harmston did some testing in relation to biners that were scooped from the base of El Cap and if my fading memory serves me right something like 99% of them passed all tests that new biners are subjected to. Â Lawgoddess, aid climbing has taught me to place protection better in general, I personally do not think that I would subject myself or my partner to a placement that I hold no confidence in. Hmmm... To get a result of "99% passing", they must have scooped at least a hundred biners (99% = 99 out of a hundred passed). I guess I'm going to have to make a booty-hunting expedition down to Yosemite... Quote
thelawgoddess Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 I guess I'm going to have to make a booty-hunting expedition down to Yosemite... i would think 100 biners from the base of el cap wouldn't take too terribly long to accumulate. i was surprised how much stuff i found both on and below the leaning tower over two days - and i wasn't even looking for booty! Quote
assmonkey Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 The other thing that's amazing about that is many of those 'biners prolly had a loooong ride down to the base. I'm surprised they tested ok. Â - a s s m * n k e y Quote
lummox Posted May 5, 2004 Posted May 5, 2004 i remember when dmm did a bunch of tests on old tat. that shit held surprisingly big loads. and then some failed way low. but i aint ever heard of a biner failing under body weight. Quote
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