Chad_A Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Well, evidently, I managed to put a small hole in the left leg of my Schoeller pants. Ideas? I think that a while back, someone mentioned using Seam Grip, or something like that, to mend it (although, it won't be pretty.) Please post anything that is known. I know that they sell Goretex repair fabric, but I've not yet seen Schoeller stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 just leave it. if its big, use duct tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 just leave it. My holes are now several years old. They haven't grown. Leave'm alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Learnign to walk with crampons on is harder than you thought, huh? Depends on size; if its not too big sew it shut with some industrial thread (carpet thread is good) that is nylon and then put a thin covering of seam sealer on both sides. If it is good sized, consider sending it back to the company (esp. arcteryx). I put a 2' cut in the upper sleeve of a hardface pullover; they just put a whole new sleeve on (for free not less). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPOly Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I would suggest just sewing it yourself. If you don't know how to sew, it doesn't take long to learn. A few minutes experimenting with different stitches and that's it. Zig-zag stitch is what you're looking for. I'm sure you know someone who has a sewing machine that you could use. Seattle Fabrics is an awesome resource for outdoor fabrics and materials. Look into Spandura as somewhat of an alternative to Schoeller. It is a blend of Lycra to give it a bit of stretch, and Cordura for strength and abrasion resistance. In terms of thread, industrial strength is a little much, the fabric will end up ripping before the thread does. All you need is polyester thread. For seam sealing they sell seam tape at Seattle Fabrics also. This is the stuff that you see on factory sealed seams, not quite as messy as other alternatives. The main worry with applying seam tape is the heat from the iron. This can be damaging to some fabrics if you're not careful. I think they also sell some sort of heat shield you can use. I would buy the smallest amount of fabric you can get, maybe 1/4 or 1/2 yard. Probably be around $7. 1 yard or 2 of seam tape, around $3. $2 for thread and you'll have everything you need, in addition to extra fabric should this happen again. Anyways good luck whatever you may choose. I'm exhausted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Wow, are you kidding? My schoeller pants have so many holes in them...crampons, rocks, you name it. I just leave them. When I got about 15 I had my mom sew them all up at once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_A Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 Learnign to walk with crampons on is harder than you thought, huh? Haha...and learning to spell was harder than you thought? Seriously, holes don't bother me too much; the only problem is, right now, they're doing double duty (bike commuting here in misty Portland), and it's nice to not have any holes in them. I'm thinking that actual sewing might be a bit too overzealous at this point, since I'll probably do it again, but something just to "glue" it would probably suffice. I know that Twight mentions "Tool Dip" as a repair alternative in his book; says that it's available at hardware stores. Heard of it, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I used the Gore-Tex iron on repair fabric. It has lasted 4 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Tool Dip or Seam Grip would make the torn area really stiff- which would discourage me from using it. Like the others above, I would (and do) just let the punctures be- mine haven't shown any tendency to spread. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I'd take CPOly's advice if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I would suggest just sewing it yourself. If you don't know how to sew, it doesn't take long to learn. A few minutes experimenting with different stitches and that's it. Zig-zag stitch is what you're looking for. I'm sure you know someone who has a sewing machine that you could use. Seattle Fabrics is an awesome resource for outdoor fabrics and materials. Look into Spandura as somewhat of an alternative to Schoeller. It is a blend of Lycra to give it a bit of stretch, and Cordura for strength and abrasion resistance. In terms of thread, industrial strength is a little much, the fabric will end up ripping before the thread does. All you need is polyester thread. For seam sealing they sell seam tape at Seattle Fabrics also. This is the stuff that you see on factory sealed seams, not quite as messy as other alternatives. The main worry with applying seam tape is the heat from the iron. This can be damaging to some fabrics if you're not careful. I think they also sell some sort of heat shield you can use. I would buy the smallest amount of fabric you can get, maybe 1/4 or 1/2 yard. Probably be around $7. 1 yard or 2 of seam tape, around $3. $2 for thread and you'll have everything you need, in addition to extra fabric should this happen again. Anyways good luck whatever you may choose. I'm exhausted. Spandura is not quite Scholler. Even less water resistant and wind resistant. Seam tape will not stick to fabrics that are not smooth, it will not work on Scholler/spandura. Plus, why bother, the pants are nowhere near waterproof anyway. If you sew it it will look like shit unless you sew a scuff guard over the entire affected area. If you use a sewing machine, make sure to use a large zigzag stich so the area will still stretch. I'd just leave them alone unless the hole is REALLY big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 What CPOLy said. I put 3' tear in my BD pants and sewed them shut with a wide and tight zig zag stitch. Still going strong after 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaterfall Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 I've used tool-dip to repair shoes. It works great. Never tried it on Schoeller though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPOly Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Spandura is not quite Scholler. Even less water resistant and wind resistant. Seam tape will not stick to fabrics that are not smooth, it will not work on Scholler/spandura. Plus, why bother, the pants are nowhere near waterproof anyway. If you sew it it will look like shit unless you sew a scuff guard over the entire affected area. If you use a sewing machine, make sure to use a large zigzag stich so the area will still stretch. I'd just leave them alone unless the hole is REALLY big. Like I said, it's somewhat of an alternative to Schoeller. I haven't tried seam tape on Schoeller yet so I don't speak from experience here. I wouldn't worry about sewing it looking like shit if you're thinking about seam seal or tool dip as other options. With that said I haven't yet repaired the small tear in my Schoeller pants either. Just an option to think about for the more adventurous out there. It's been my experience that making clothing and gear repairs via sewing is pretty easy, yet many are deterred because the idea of sewing something yourself seems difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_A Posted April 15, 2004 Author Share Posted April 15, 2004 Yeah, think I'll keep my eye on it, and make sure it doesn't spread. In the mean time, I'll certainly check out the spandura. Thanks CPOLy, for that. By the way, Seattle Fabrics is a good resource to have. I'll have to have my girlfriend show me how to sew; with some practice, and some of their raw materials, I could make some stuff that I'd normally have to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPOly Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 It can definetly be the cheaper alternative. I made a pair of gaitors for myself that are really sweet. Waterproof/Breathable fabric up top and heavy duty cordura for the bottoms. Got the pattern from Seattle Fabrics. Also made a crash pad for much less than it would cost to buy one. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 (edited) Well, evidently, I managed to put a small hole in the left leg of my Schoeller pants. Ideas? I think that a while back, someone mentioned using Seam Grip, or something like that, to mend it (although, it won't be pretty.) Please post anything that is known. I know that they sell Goretex repair fabric, but I've not yet seen Schoeller stuff. I have/had several holes in the cuffs of my softshell pants (from ski edges ). I patched them with Goretex patches. very simple I've had no problems since I patched them 1+ years ago. I'll add that the goretex patches I used were sticky and didn't require any ironing. Honestly this is the easiest fix so it worth a shot! Those goretex patches rock, especially when you get them from the 50% bin at OR. I have patched lots of crampon holes with them..... Edited April 15, 2004 by Dustin_B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 yeah sew em. i do it with a shitty free sewing kit. if a stress area, use floss (if you have it-you dirt bags) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 How's about we abandon pub club in favor of a sewing circle, where we all exchange patterns and sewing tips for making our own gear? I'm not joking. I think. Years ago, I sewed my first pair of aiders. I only screamed a little when the 'bar-tacks' blew during my first aid climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Go for it. Nice REI keychain thermometer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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