Loose_Brie Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 A simple question. I have researched all the possibilities and there are two. Quote
lummox Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 there are fiscal conservatives. there are moral conservatives. there are 2nd amendment gun nut conservatives. there are hilary-hater conservatives. the list goes on and on. Quote
Off_White Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 I think that's one thing that GW "I'm a divider, not a uniter" Bush is making clear. "Conservatives" as a term covers a lot of territory, and it's far from a monolithic block. My father counts himself as a conservative, libertarian end of the spectrum, once a borderline John Birch Society type, and he finds the imperial posture of the neo-con cabal currently in power horrifying. A lot of people who consider themselves some type of "conservative" don't like various aspects of whats going on in the executive branch these days. I know a few who have gone over to the Kerry side of the fence, and it's these crucial swing votes that will decide the election if you ask me. Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 All of them can be characterized by a common trait, a fixed mind set. They are very close minded and are supremely confident in the correctness of their view of the world. They tend to become fixated on a few core issues and don't look at the big picture. Their mental construct of reality is best termed "belief based", that is it is not based on information and critical thinking. Most of them were spoon fed their beliefs by others. Quote
RobBob Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 That interesting. If you liberals were so open-minded, wouldn't you be open-minded enough to try on the conservative beliefs just once? And if you did, wouldn't quite a number of you come on over to the other side...? Quote
Off_White Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 Gosh CBS, you sound sort of close minded in your assessment, but at least you're sure you're right. Quote
lummox Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 All of them can be characterized by a common trait, a fixed mind set. They are very close minded and are supremely confident in the correctness of their view of the world. They tend to become fixated on a few core issues and don't look at the big picture. Their mental construct of reality is best termed "belief based", that is it is not based on information and critical thinking. Most of them were spoon fed their beliefs by others. in response to your ridiculus stereotype i will just write the name of one of my heroes: barry goldwater. my mutha fuka be dope. Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 I was referrring more to the people listed by lummox in his first reply than to neocons in general. Quote
Jim Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 That interesting. If you liberals were so open-minded, wouldn't you be open-minded enough to try on the conservative beliefs just once? And if you did, wouldn't quite a number of you come on over to the other side...? Â I consider myself progressive on social and environmental issues and conservative on fiscal issues. The backbone of true conservative politics used to rely on fiscal responsibility - a truely conservative approach to government spending, a cautious approach to foreign affairs, and encouraging free enterprise. Â The neoconservative movement is stripping away many of these goals. We have bloated and growing federal spending, increasing subsidy programs (largest farm bill and wasteful military spending), a foreign policy based on speculation and isolation from the world community, and an increase in business and financial mergers and a corresponding decrease in competition. This group is pegging the meter in the wrong direction. Quote
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 I find that both liberals and conservatives are equally spoon-fed and close-minded. Threads like this prove it. Quote
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 you old enough to vote yet cracked? I will be next month! Quote
Blake Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 All of them can be characterized by a common trait, a fixed mind set. They are very close minded and are supremely confident in the correctness of their view of the world. They tend to become fixated on a few core issues and don't look at the big picture. Their mental construct of reality is best termed "belief based", that is it is not based on information and critical thinking. Most of them were spoon fed their beliefs by others. Â Fuckin A Â Quote
AlpineK Posted February 23, 2004 Posted February 23, 2004 Lord deliver us... Â I agree. I find the prospect of Cracked voting extremely scary. Â Republicans used to be pro environment. Just look at Dan Evans or Teddy Roosevelt. Too bad the new school repubs suck up to folks who think that the only thing anyone should care about is increasing the stock value of their company. Quote
mattp Posted February 23, 2004 Posted February 23, 2004 Too bad the new school repubs suck up to folks who think that the only thing anyone should care about is increasing the stock value of their company. Â -- and then looting it. Quote
To_The_Top Posted February 23, 2004 Posted February 23, 2004 They used to be fiscal conservatives too. Hello record deficits under the republicans watch. Quote
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