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I'm considering the following for 2004:

 

-eat more beef

-eat more farmed salmon (but not farmed shrimp because the quality sucks)

-wear some fur

-consider a diesel stick-shift for a change

-try clipping bolts

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How can you say the quality sux for farmed shrimp but not farmed salmon?

 

There is some great farmed salmon out there from a variety of places: Norway, Scotland, The Faroes, Canada, Chile. You just have to know who the producer is, and make sure you don't get the over-sized ones. It's hard to beat wild, but a lot of the farmed is good if procured right.

 

On the other hand, one can generalize that farmed shrimp, which are predominantly farmed inland in ponds, away from their natural habitat, taste way-different than their wild counterparts. Of course there are a huge variety of shrimps and prawns in the world, but you can pretty much generalize that a wild shrimp is gonna taste better. Farmed shrimp are really prone to earthy and musty off-flavors, as well as having a flesh texture difference.

 

Funny also how all of the "wild" game served in the US and European restaurants is also farm-raised. cantfocus.gif

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For the Yanks out there: Don't move to Canada, gain landed immigrant status and then let your friends know that after 3 years of gaining said status you'll be able to travel the globe with a Canadian passport. the_finger.gif

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yes, it varies, but mostly it sucks. and it's horrible for the environment

 

You have been hoodood into being PC. Travel to Puerto Montt and take a close look for yourself at how the salmon are farmed.

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Well, I check it out next time I'm in Chile... What are you saying, that they taste good? That they employ a more sustainable farmed fish industry there?

 

'Hoodood into being PC'? Huh?

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yes, it varies, but mostly it sucks. and it's horrible for the environment

 

You have been hoodood into being PC. Travel to Puerto Montt and take a close look for yourself at how the salmon are farmed.

 

Are you saying then that Puerto Montt is the exception to the rule?

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nope...it just represents the major supplier to the US, that's all. technology's basically the same. okay, visit a farm in Norway, or BC if you guys haven't deepsixed that industry entirely yet. Talk to the people that work on the facility. See what they really do.

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See what they really do.

 

Like adding dies to the fish meal to make everything nice and pink? Like releasing concentrated fish crap into the environment? Like feeding them antibiotics because otherwise they'd contract deadly diseases from the overcrowded conditions?

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yeah visit a farm in BC....

 

check out

 

the huge pile of antibiotic-laced salmon shit under the farm and corresponding dead zone in the water

 

the sea-lice infested wild smolts

 

the dead sea lions with bullets in the head washing up on local beaches (hey, if a predator attacks your herd you kill it right, just like wolves and ranching)

 

what you won't see is the factory fishing fleet driftnetting in the south pacific and grinding up "unpalatable" species to make fishmeal to feed the salmon: 10 tons of other fish species makes less than 1 ton of farmed salmon, an even worse energy efficiency than a diesel 2-stroke!

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