AlpineK Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: RuMR said: and yeah, murder is sometimes acceptable...there are circumstances that support it... when... i defy you to give me an instance. What about GW Bush delaring war. Shouldn't he be guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. Aren't all those soldiers guilty of murder. Quote
lummox Posted November 18, 2003 Author Posted November 18, 2003 (edited) i missed the again. Edited November 18, 2003 by lummox Quote
joe_average Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: RuMR said: and yeah, murder is sometimes acceptable...there are circumstances that support it... when... i defy you to give me an instance. You come home, your wife is being raped, your kids suffocated, you're next. But murder is not justifiable, so you uncock your shotgun and bend over. I could go on and on...murder is justifiable under some circumstances. Duh. Quote
Distel32 Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 I don't think living ethics apply to climbing ethics Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 mattp said: scott_harpell said: is it ever ok to murder? no. According to some, it is OK to murder if you are murdering Islamic terrorists before they murder you. i say that it is not. Quote
joe_average Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 Distel32 said: I don't think living ethics apply to climbing ethics No! No! You're wrong! My entire life is dependant on what I climb in what style! Quote
lummox Posted November 18, 2003 Author Posted November 18, 2003 Distel32 said: I don't think living ethics apply to climbing ethics 'climbing ethics' is neither? Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 joe_average said: scott_harpell said: RuMR said: and yeah, murder is sometimes acceptable...there are circumstances that support it... when... i defy you to give me an instance. You come home, your wife is being raped, your kids suffocated, you're next. But murder is not justifiable, so you uncock your shotgun and bend over. I could go on and on...murder is justifiable under some circumstances. Duh. better look up the definition of murder there. it is the unlawful killing of another with malice. doesn't really fit the description... better hit the books. Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 Distel32 said: I don't think living ethics apply to climbing ethics are you serious?!? we have laws that are institued so that our impact on others in a derogatory way is minimized... the sme holds true for outdoor ethics. that is why we dont shit in a stream... i hope someone told you that... Quote
RuMR Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 Scott...i'm telling you, if someone molested/harmed one of my children, i'd HUNT the bastard down and kill him in COLD BLOOD...and he would disappear to the bottom of the pacific...even if i had to wait until after he got out of prison...I think that fits your definition... Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 RuMR said: Scott...i'm telling you, if someone molested/harmed one of my children, i'd HUNT the bastard down and kill him in COLD BLOOD...and he would disappear to the bottom of the pacific...even if i had to wait until after he got out of prison...I think that fits your definition... yeah an dthat is murder... and it is wrong. Quote
joe_average Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: joe_average said: scott_harpell said: RuMR said: and yeah, murder is sometimes acceptable...there are circumstances that support it... when... i defy you to give me an instance. You come home, your wife is being raped, your kids suffocated, you're next. But murder is not justifiable, so you uncock your shotgun and bend over. I could go on and on...murder is justifiable under some circumstances. Duh. better look up the definition of murder there. it is the unlawful killing of another with malice. doesn't really fit the description... better hit the books. Gee, sorry, I hadn't realized that you made up your own definition of MURDER as well, not just climbing ethics. I define murder as the killing of another human being. Quit trying to squirm out of this massive tight spot. Admit it, you're not making sense. After 24 pages you've thoroughly convinced most people that you intensely dislike logic. No need to keep going. Quote
AlpineK Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 It's legal in a bunch of place to kill someone in self defence. Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 joe_average said: scott_harpell said: joe_average said: scott_harpell said: RuMR said: and yeah, murder is sometimes acceptable...there are circumstances that support it... when... i defy you to give me an instance. You come home, your wife is being raped, your kids suffocated, you're next. But murder is not justifiable, so you uncock your shotgun and bend over. I could go on and on...murder is justifiable under some circumstances. Duh. better look up the definition of murder there. it is the unlawful killing of another with malice. doesn't really fit the description... better hit the books. Gee, sorry, I hadn't realized that you made up your own definition of MURDER as well, not just climbing ethics. I define murder as the killing of another human being. Quit trying to squirm out of this massive tight spot. Admit it, you're not making sense. After 24 pages you've thoroughly convinced most people that you intensely dislike logic. No need to keep going. mur·der P Pronunciation Key (mûrdr) n. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice. better hit the books kiddo. Quote
lummox Posted November 18, 2003 Author Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: we have laws that are institued so that our impact on others in a derogatory way is minimized... the sme holds true for outdoor ethics. that is why we dont shit in a stream... i did not know it was against the law to shit in a stream. oops! Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 AlpineK said: It's legal in a bunch of place to kill someone in self defence. and that is not murder... read the definition Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 joe_average said: Key word is especially, jackass. another key phrase The unlawful killing shit man what school do you go to? Quote
RuMR Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: RuMR said: Scott...i'm telling you, if someone molested/harmed one of my children, i'd HUNT the bastard down and kill him in COLD BLOOD...and he would disappear to the bottom of the pacific...even if i had to wait until after he got out of prison...I think that fits your definition... yeah an dthat is murder... and it is wrong. Well...i don't give a shit if its wrong in your world or not...the mother fucker forfeited his life the second he thought about touching my child...So be it, if you think i'm acting like god...i don't care what you or society or anyone else thinks...that person would be a walking dead man...Fuck Ethics... When you have kids let's revisit this conversation... Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 ..Fuck Ethics... thanks... you just proved my point Quote
joe_average Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: AlpineK said: It's legal in a bunch of place to kill someone in self defence. and that is not murder... read the definition "To kill (another human) unlawfully" Yeah, so what's your point? You're still not making any sense. Quote
RuMR Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: ..Fuck Ethics... thanks... you just proved my point your point is what? I don't care about ethics? That your point? No...i don't care about YOUR ethics...mine are different...you obviously don't care about MY ethics....do you? Quote
Distel32 Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 YOU HAVE REACHED THE END OF THIS THREAD, I'M SORRY BUT YOU CAN NO LONGER POST ON THIS TOPIC. THIS IS THE END, MY ONLY FRIEND, THE END........ Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 scott_harpell said: AlpineK said: It's legal in a bunch of place to kill someone in self defence. and that is not murder... read the definition that is my point cracked... alpine k said it was legal to kill in self defense, but that is not murder now is it? Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 18, 2003 Posted November 18, 2003 RuMR said: scott_harpell said: ..Fuck Ethics... thanks... you just proved my point your point is what? I don't care about ethics? That your point? No...i don't care about YOUR ethics...mine are different...you obviously don't care about MY ethics....do you? your ethics are relative... forever changing... i ont know what i would be signing up for and that makes me a bit hesitant i would have to say... Quote
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