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Sliding down snow on plank(s); it's all good. Shuddup and slide!

So Ecock can't see you?

I dunno, Matt, I interpret this as he was aiming it towards climbers, ie, me. Maybe I'm way off base, but I doubt it.

Said as a true telemarker!

well cracked, one might, instead of saying what you said, be enticed to state his rationale for climbing to discredit my statement. instead, you just look defensive. why are you so angered by what i have to say? cheer up. its just a BBS. Scott, you indirectly insult most of the people on this board by believing that you can explain their motivations in a most condescending manner. Once again, speak for yourself, not for me. Why I climb? Fuck, because it's fun, plain and simple. I'm wondering where your 'conquering' bullshit came from. How does one 'conquer' a hunk of rock? What annoys me is your condescension, the fact that you think you know who I am, what I do, why I do it, and whatever you do is pure and perfect. 'Lighten up'? You're the one who brought religion into the debate, with your pious whining about your remorse for lifting biners, yet in the same breath chastising the rest of us for our 'destructive' behaviors. Pathetic.

You know, Scott, I was writing a longer reply in response to your stupidity, but then I realized that it wasn't worth my time. PS how is climbing 'conquering' anything? No, climbing doesn't bring us anything of value, and yes, it's fundamentally dangerous, but don't even begin to think that you can speak for my motivations. Fuck off. PPS

No doubt. It's easy to eliminate his presence at a Pube Club for instance. Just make it too far for him to bicycle to. Don't get snart now. Otherwise he'll start a thread to show how stupid he is again.

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perhaps this is the problem. we as humans cannot accept the fact that we are limited. What have we done to obstacles in the past? Natives? Naughty rivers? why, in this postmodern world should the vertical realm be any different. Conquer at any cost is the one statement that has defined our species and i guess i am naieve to assume that you shit flingers can see your destructive deeply seeded need to conquer anything and everything just because you can. no longer do we do these thigns for money or power, but the need to ocnquer is so permeated in our species that we do it mechanically without any reason. in the in the in the 1800's it was to gain money and power. Now the rational is 'cause its there man.' You are full of shit.

I was wondering why this was still in the Climbers' Board.

Huh?

why not? because they are harder to ignore? harder to rationalize? harder to follow? Because your 'ethics' are so incredibly simplistic and senseless that anyone with half a brain doesn't listen to you. Drop the holier than thou bullshit and try to take a look around. If you're so perfect why are you wasting your precious time spraying on this board...go feed some starving kids or AIDS patients, Father Teresa. It's obvious how hypocritical you are, and it's starting to make me sick.

Is all this shit really worth wasting our time on? This thread has significantly lowered my opinion of Scott, and that's all it achieved. We're not saying anything new and/or relevant anymore. This is getting stupid.

Ascension sells glue.

and that is not murder... read the definition "To kill (another human) unlawfully" Yeah, so what's your point? You're still not making any sense.

Key word is especially, jackass.

when... i defy you to give me an instance. You come home, your wife is being raped, your kids suffocated, you're next. But murder is not justifiable, so you uncock your shotgun and bend over. I could go on and on...murder is justifiable under some circumstances. Duh. better look up the definition of murder there. it is the unlawful killing of another with malice. doesn't really fit the description... better hit the books. Gee, sorry, I hadn't realized that you made up your own definition of MURDER as well, not just climbing ethics. I define murder as the killing of another human being. Quit trying to squirm out of this massive tight spot. Admit it, you're not making sense. After 24 pages you've thoroughly convinced most people that you intensely dislike logic. No need to keep going.

I've never done it, but I've heard that it takes mild heat, then you can scrape the old glue off, and replace it.

No! No! You're wrong! My entire life is dependant on what I climb in what style!

when... i defy you to give me an instance. You come home, your wife is being raped, your kids suffocated, you're next. But murder is not justifiable, so you uncock your shotgun and bend over. I could go on and on...murder is justifiable under some circumstances. Duh.

Depends who you're murdering. Start making some sense and people might listen. BTW, the electricity that powers your computer came through those Earth-raping power lines. How do you justify that away?

(e) the attitude that leads to all 4 I'm sure you live in a recycled tire house, powered by solar panels, eat homegrown sprouts, make your own tofu, walk to whereever you need to get, don't eat processed food, wear organic homegrown hemp clothing, drink natural spring water, don't wash your hair to keep shampoo out of our water, and live in harmony with the land. Be one with Mother Earth. Stick that in your average-income white American pipe and smoke it. Kurt:

The single biggest influence? BOLTS!

Such eloquence...I can't possibly match such perfection. What's the matter? Ass sore again?