ChrisT Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: ChrisT said: adventuregal said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: the possabiloity exsits that they are 'stage parents' most likely... more power to the whole family then. I'm sure they wouldn't even be in it if they didn't want to... I totaly disagree Chris There are laws about child labor for a reason. We bring our children into the world to love them, not so they will pony up and pay our bills. well I'm sure they are not pointing a gun to her head and telling her "climb or you're dead!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: I totaly disagree Chris There are laws about child labor for a reason. We bring our children into the world to love them, not so they will pony up and pay our bills. whatever dude. my parents made me work like a dog, i am looking forward to doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 ChrisT said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: ChrisT said: adventuregal said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: the possabiloity exsits that they are 'stage parents' most likely... more power to the whole family then. I'm sure they wouldn't even be in it if they didn't want to... I totaly disagree Chris There are laws about child labor for a reason. We bring our children into the world to love them, not so they will pony up and pay our bills. well I'm sure they are not pointing a gun to her head and telling her "climb or you're dead!" you never know have you ever read the biography of Judy Garland??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: ChrisT said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: ChrisT said: adventuregal said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: the possabiloity exsits that they are 'stage parents' most likely... more power to the whole family then. I'm sure they wouldn't even be in it if they didn't want to... I totaly disagree Chris There are laws about child labor for a reason. We bring our children into the world to love them, not so they will pony up and pay our bills. well I'm sure they are not pointing a gun to her head and telling her "climb or you're dead!" you never know have you ever read the biography of Judy Garland??? Muffy it's 2003 - not 1933! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 ChrisT said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: ChrisT said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: ChrisT said: adventuregal said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: the possabiloity exsits that they are 'stage parents' most likely... more power to the whole family then. I'm sure they wouldn't even be in it if they didn't want to... I totaly disagree Chris There are laws about child labor for a reason. We bring our children into the world to love them, not so they will pony up and pay our bills. well I'm sure they are not pointing a gun to her head and telling her "climb or you're dead!" you never know have you ever read the biography of Judy Garland??? Muffy it's 2003 - not 1933! and that means that evil does not exist?? I am just saying it is possible... the truth come out in the wash it always does. I hope that She is loving what she is doing and that her folks are stashing the cash for her so that she never has to work a day in her life at a crummy job she hate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adventuregal Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 ChrisT said: Muffy it's 2003 - not 1933! Um, yeah, but no matter what year it is, kids still want to please their parents and not disappoint them. Lots of times kids do stuff that they don't enjoy because they don't know how to say 'no' to their parents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 erik said: Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: I totaly disagree Chris There are laws about child labor for a reason. We bring our children into the world to love them, not so they will pony up and pay our bills. whatever dude. my parents made me work like a dog, i am looking forward to doing the same. damn it! i hate to agree w/erik i always had a ton of work to do around the house. and in order to support my personal hobby of choice as a teen i had a job from the time i was 13. i don't think there's anything wrong with this girl making money from climbing even at this age. if her parents are pushing her to climb if she doesn't want to....that's different. there is nothing wrong w/a teen having a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 yep she's on the gravy train...just like the Olsen twins~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 (edited) EDIT: I think a discussion of over commercialization of children is an interesting and important topic, but it's not easy to steer the topic back to RuMr's original direction because of the absurd negativity that has developed on this thread: You know what... I keep hearing this CRAZY sheeit? Dig: When a team wins the WORLD SERIES they are crowned WORLD CHAMPION, but noone else in the world gets a chance to play for th title. OUTRAGE! Or the SUPERBOWL WINNER is crowned WORLD CHAMPION, and nobody in the CFL gets to contend it! Is this what this website has come to. Insulting a 15 year old girl for having the audacity to make a claim that was bestowed upon her by an accepted competition league. She's not even around to defend herself. Weren't people whining about the same thing over in the D D D DWHINER thread. Get a grip childrens. Edited October 15, 2003 by E-rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 E-rock said: You know what... I keep hearing this CRAZY sheeit? Dig: When a team wins the WORLD SERIES they are crowned WORLD CHAMPION, but noone else in the world gets a chance to play for th title. OUTRAGE! Or the SUPERBOWL WINNER is crowned WORLD CHAMPION, and nobody in the CFL gets to contend it! Is this what this website has come to. Insulting a 15 year old girl for having the audacity to make a claim that bestowed upon her by and accepted competition league. She's not even around to defend herself. Weren't people whining about the same thing over in the D D D DWHINER thread. Get a grip childrens. yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 There's a big difference here, E-Rock. This girl seems to have self-imposed the title on herself. In the case of the pro teams, the winner of that competition is deemed the world champs by default (coming from the governing bodies of that sport), not by the teams themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 OOOOooooOOOOh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 E-rock said: You know what... I keep hearing this CRAZY sheeit? Dig: When a team wins the WORLD SERIES they are crowned WORLD CHAMPION, but noone else in the world gets a chance to play for th title. OUTRAGE! Or the SUPERBOWL WINNER is crowned WORLD CHAMPION, and nobody in the CFL gets to contend it! Is this what this website has come to. Insulting a 15 year old girl for having the audacity to make a claim that bestowed upon her by and accepted competition league. She's not even around to defend herself. Weren't people whining about the same thing over in the D D D DWHINER thread. Get a grip childrens. She's probably got an internet connection. And the 5th grade aint THAT hard (except for math). So, she hasn't been excluded from getting online and defending herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 frankly, i think the insulting of the 15 yr old girl, who isn't even here defending herself is a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 E-rock... My whole point of posting it had nothing to do w/ the "world champion" thing...the girl totally kicks ass at climbing...there is no denying it...she is also an absolutely incredible athlete even disregarding climbing (ie. her pole vaulting exploits) would most likely be extremely competitive in any sport she followed... The real point of posting for me, was the rank capitilization and marketing that is going on w/ climbing (My term is "TEAM REI")...seems a very far cry from climbing's roots...and i have an extremely hard time envisioning climbers dirtbagging at camp 4 w/ one of those dolls hanging in their tents...but hey, everyone's gotta make a buck or two, so why not go down this avenue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 yeah, but when you put yourself out on a medium such as the internet with a claim like that, what do you expect?? It'd be one thing if she didn't say she was the "all-around climbing champion" (and I would think that by definition, champion is a single person, group, or entity), however, by stating that she says she's better than any other person out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 It's all those damn marketing grads 25 years ago there pob wasn't even a martketing major... as a culture we're being marketing do death, esp. our children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 E-rock and others, Don't spank RuMR for what I brought up. I brought up the All-Around World Champion slugfest after I clicked on her site. As I said earlier in this thread, Sure, she may be a great sport climber and plastic jugger, but nothing she's done qualifies her to be called/call herself/allow herself to be called an "all-around" world champion, all-around being the key phrase here. I think her sponsors have some 'splaning to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 RuMR said: E-rock... My whole point of posting it had nothing to do w/ the "world champion" thing...the girl totally kicks ass at climbing...there is no denying it...she is also an absolutely incredible athlete even disregarding climbing (ie. her pole vaulting exploits) would most likely be extremely competitive in any sport she followed... The real point of posting for me, was the rank capitilization and marketing that is going on w/ climbing (My term is "TEAM REI")...seems a very far cry from climbing's roots...and i have an extremely hard time envisioning climbers dirtbagging at camp 4 w/ one of those dolls hanging in their tents...but hey, everyone's gotta make a buck or two, so why not go down this avenue... Sorry Ruedi, I planned to make a disclaimer in my post and got lazy. I knew what your point was, and I do not disagree with it. I'm disagreeing with the direction that certain overly negative and insecure posters have taken the thread. I think that a discussion about the overt commercialization of childhood stardom is important because it often ruins lives. But a trash-athon that includes a post insulting how ATTRACTIVE a 15 YEAR OLD GIRL is, crosses a line, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Ursa_Eagle said: yeah, but when you put yourself out on a medium such as the internet with a claim like that, what do you expect?? It'd be one thing if she didn't say she was the "all-around climbing champion" (and I would think that by definition, champion is a single person, group, or entity), however, by stating that she says she's better than any other person out there. Then send her a polite email. Christ in this day and age you can email the fucking PRESIDENT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 agreed...no reason to rip anybody, much less a motivated teenager...that's f-ing lame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 actually the title World Champions and the World Series. Came from the original newspaper that sponsered the original event and not the fact that they claim to be the world champions. and e-rock i dont think the super bowl winners are deemed the world champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Eat a dick, erik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 E-rock said: Eat a dick, erik. score one for the good guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whirlwind Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 i wonder if i could market myself as "world champion hangdogger" or purhaps " Sir Flails Alot" bet i could make a buck or two... REI here i come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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