j_b Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 link to story Arnie, the humiliator Clinton took a hit for less, so why did Schwarzenegger's groping have no impact at the polls? Susan Faludi Thursday October 9, 2003 The Guardian [...] "Clinton was perceived by men as having lost this control, and worse, lost it to a series of women. He may have been the aggressor, but as a seducer he really meant to seduce, thus exposing an almost feminine sort of desire and vulnerability. For this, he was humiliated, held up like Howard for ridicule in male eyes. No wonder that so many women empathised with Clinton: he was essentially shamed like a fallen woman. Schwarzenegger, on the other hand, is Chad the "playful" cad, going after women, sniggering frat-boy style, for the score. Sex isn't even the prime object here: the women were manhandled, not seduced. There is no warning, no courtship (unless you count such come-ons as "I'd love to work you out"); the hand darts into their underclothes like a bolt from the blue, a pre-emptive strike. "Did he rape me? No," one woman said, recalling the time Schwarzenegger allegedly grabbed her breast. "Did he humiliate me? You bet he did." [...] "No matter how much sand gets kicked in their face, they can still fantasise that one day they, too, will do enough leg-lifts to rise in the ranks. At a time of deep economic and international insecurity, the easy power of the bully boy is a siren call to the American male populace, as evidenced by Bush's continuing allure to the very men whose interests are least served by his policies. The locker-room game works as long as only men get to play, and only as long as they agree to play by certain rules. One rule is that sensuality is verboten, but aggressive jocularity is not. Humiliating women in a "playful" way can signal a rejection of "the feminine" and a reinforcement of male bonding. That rejection of the feminine explains why, in the gubernatorial debate, the governor seemed fixated on shutting down Arianna Huffington. When haranguing didn't work, he resorted to a veiled threat of physical humiliation, implied in the remark: "I have a perfect part for you in Terminator 4." As much as he denied it later, it's hard to imagine what part he had in mind except the one assigned the female robot in Terminator 3, whose face he buried in the toilet. Funny, right? Not to Huffington. "It's a continuum of a lack of respect," she remarked to me a few days after the debate, "from not putting a single woman on your economic team, to bullying a woman at a debate, to treating women in such a humiliating way in the course of your daily life." [...] Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Did any of those allegations even get proven yet? You'd think if someone had a case, they might, um, you know, take the Governator to court or something. Quote
rbw1966 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Did Packwood ever get sued for it either? Nope. Quote
allthumbs Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 heh j_b, you homo, click here for a money shot of Arnold. Quote
j_b Posted October 9, 2003 Author Posted October 9, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: Did any of those allegations even get proven yet? You'd think if someone had a case, they might, um, you know, take the Governator to court or something. the article provides a rational of why some of the people involved did not say anything initially. your question can also be turned the other way: the identity of most of the accusers (~10 out 15 in the latimes) is public, so why is arnie not suing them? Quote
JayB Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Why the obsession with Arnold my Evil Homonym? Did Arnie grope you? Would you like to talk about it? Quote
allthumbs Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 j_b tool - Arnold could give a shit. He "copped the feel" and the gals were loving it at the time. BFD. And as to Hitler, he just said he admired how the fucker rose from nothing, not that he admired what Hitler became. At least Arnold didn't lie about shit. Give him a chance asshole, you might be surprised. People like you totally suck...so ready to cut down anyone that doesn't follow your party line. You really suck. Quote
j_b Posted October 9, 2003 Author Posted October 9, 2003 JayB said: Why the obsession with Arnold my Evil Homonym? Did Arnie grope you? Would you like to talk about it? 2 posts on the topic is an obsession? what is certain however is that i am tired of bullies ruling the day (did you hear me trask?) Quote
j_b Posted October 9, 2003 Author Posted October 9, 2003 rbw1966 said: if you think it pleasurable to be continually insulted by a moron whenever you express a differing opinion, be my guest. but don't assume it is to everyone's taste. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Get oputta that liberal straight jacket! link Quote
allthumbs Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 I never insult rbw1966. He always posts good shit. You on the other hand always post negative shit about life in general. Always the downer side of things. I reiterate...you suck. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 trask said: I never insult rbw1966. He always posts good shit. You on the other hand always post negative shit about life in general. Always the downer side of things. I reiterate...you suck. Way to turn things around to the bright and positive side, Trask! A true beacon of uplifting energy, you are! Quote
j_b Posted October 9, 2003 Author Posted October 9, 2003 trask said: I never insult rbw1966. He always posts good shit. You on the other hand always post negative shit about life in general. Always the downer side of things. I reiterate...you suck. what is truly depressing is your reality, which comes out through your posts. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 j_b said: what is truly depressing is your reality, which comes out through your posts. What's so depressing about red meat, raw porn, and hard liquor? Sounds like a reasonably fulfilling and well-focused existence. Quote
ScottP Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 trask said: I never insult rbw1966. He always posts good shit. You on the other hand always post negative shit about life in general. Always the downer side of things. I reiterate...you suck. Search results for query: trask cc.com sucks Biggest Pussys Around Here Goddamn Erik is suck I'm sick of you, and you know who I mean trask thinks sphinx is a scrotum scratcher Pardon me while I pinch a Crackbolter many climbers are punks (and my favorite...) Manboobs are gross Quote
j_b Posted October 10, 2003 Author Posted October 10, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: j_b said: what is truly depressing is your reality, which comes out through your posts. What's so depressing about red meat, raw porn, and hard liquor? Sounds like a reasonably fulfilling and well-focused existence. there is nothing depressing about them per se (or at least, when consumed in moderation). however, shoving them in everyone's face month after month, and combining them with utmost intolerance and disrespect (dare i say, hate) for other lifestyles is a reality i do no wish to share for it is truly depressing. Quote
AlpineK Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: j_b said: what is truly depressing is your reality, which comes out through your posts. What's so depressing about red meat, raw porn, and hard liquor? Sounds like a reasonably fulfilling and well-focused existence. I've said this before j_b; I'm more close to you politically, but you suck j_b Quote
j_b Posted October 10, 2003 Author Posted October 10, 2003 AlpineK said: Dr_Flash_Amazing said: j_b said: what is truly depressing is your reality, which comes out through your posts. What's so depressing about red meat, raw porn, and hard liquor? Sounds like a reasonably fulfilling and well-focused existence. I've said this before j_b; I'm more close to you politically, but you suck j_b ah! yes, of course. i forgot: the "good old boys" always stick together. Quote
Dru Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Shouldn't this thread be moved to the NEW J_B IS SO SUCK FORUM Quote
Fence_Sitter Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Clinton took a hit for less, so why did Schwarzenegger's groping have no impact at the polls? mabe cause it was in the oval office and hommes was gettin hummers while on our dime? also, this was what 30 years ago? fuck! GWB was snortin coke not 10 ago! Quote
Minotaur Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 j_b once again proves his incredible stupidity...what's new? STFU, tool. Quote
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