dryad Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 The past couple of weekends I've been to South Early Winter Spire and Blueberry Hill in Darrington, and it made me wonder, what constitutes a crag? I presume most people consider SEWS an alpine climb. There is a summit to get to and there is a non-trivial approach. On the other hand, I presume most people consider Blueberry Hill/X-Dome a crag, but there is also a summit to get to and it also has a non-trivial approach, which is a little shorter time-wise, but a lot more treacherous than the approach for SEWS. So what characteristics qualify something to be called an alpine climb rather than a crag? Quote
Dru Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Washington Pass is "alpine cragging" ditto Yak Peak. Mt Sir Donald is only a little further from the road but is not "cragging". I bet that doesnt answer your question. Quote
Sphinx Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 A crag is where Dwayner climbs but doesn't admit it. A mountain is were Dwayner says he climbs. Quote
chucK Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 I think of a "crag" as someplace you go more to practice the rock-climbing than to get somewhere (like the summit or a traverse). Places like Washington Pass or Exfoliation Dome could be either, but I think of them as crags because they are relatively close to the road and they have many different variations of varying difficulty for getting to the summit (and some don't even go to the summit), so it seems like the preponderance of use is more for the pitches, rather than the summiting. That's my answer. Quote
Sphinx Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 I think Baker is a crag, cause I go for the skiing, not so much for the summit. Quote
Crackbolter Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Crags are short climbs or short approaches. Usually Grade 2 or 3. Quote
chucK Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Anyplace that has been outfitted using a power drill is a crag. Let the counter-examples flow freely kids. Quote
EWolfe Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Dru said: crags are where you find craghags ...and cragrats... Quote
Jens Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 A crag might be a singular rock climbing formation or outcrop that does not end in a summit and is not considered big enough to be a "wall". Quote
terrible_ted Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Sorry, but SEWS has a pretty trivial approach. -t Quote
Dru Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Dr_Flash_Amazing said: Crag: I can see summits Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Dru said: I can see summits That's SOOOOO punk rawk. Quote
fleblebleb Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 MisterE said: Dru said: crags are where you find craghags ...and cragrats... ... and cragfags... Quote
Fejas Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Crackbolter said: Usually Grade 2 or 3. Crag = Sport although trad lines are found, the more common lines followed are sport(TopRope is sport as well), this is what I think of when I here crag... crag \Crag\ (kr[a^]g), n. [W. craig; akin to Gael. creag, Corn. karak, Armor. karrek.] 1. A steep, rugged rock; a rough, broken cliff, or point of a rock, on a ledge. 2.The neck or throat [Obs.] (referring to a volcano) Quote
Crackbolter Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 Fejas said: Crackbolter said: Usually Grade 2 or 3. Crag = Sport Yes, all of Cashmere Crags are sport climbing areas. Especially the North and West Face of the Mole, Snow Creek Wall, West and Northwest Face of the Blockhouse and the Temple ridge crags. Last I checked, no one has taken the time to drill 3/8" bolts on any of the crags. Most are either 1/4" or 5/16" hand drilled. Quote
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