cj001f Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 hmm. yes. There's this thing called "reading" - you might get better grades if you try it. Pages 2 & 3 of the aforementioned article list who, how & references for the breathability tests. Quote
cracked Posted September 11, 2003 Author Posted September 11, 2003 I saw the references. I still call bullshit on the claim that WB400 is less breathable than the true WP/B. It's air permeable, the WP/Bs aren't. I rest my case. Not like it matters to me, cause I'm going back to nylon windshirts! Quote
JayB Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 Just bought some WB-400 pants from beyondfleece.com after reading many positive reviews of the fabric (and the company) elsewhere. Will post a review or something once I've had a chance to use them... Quote
Beck Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 (edited) hey, jay B , wb-400 ROCKS! mid winter in the cascades. i used it quite a bit last winter, it is super, super strechy, warm, and breathable... i loved it. my briefs, the bibs, and a layered soft shell top were all I needed moving fast up to 10,000ft midwinter. there are so many versions of schoeller now, it boggles the imagination! (I'm wearing schoeller dryskin as i post this!) Edited September 11, 2003 by Beck Quote
allthumbs Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 I'm naked and smoking a cigar as I post this. Quote
Beck Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 it is very similar to powershield, but about three times as strechy, which I found very nice, i've got big mountain mid winter bibs that fit and perform more like tights. they do not do well in rain, but in snow conditions, wow. 60 mph ground blizzards and ice storms, they were the shizzle. slogging uphill on hood predawn to get some early tracks, worked great. definetly. the cascades can be cruel cruel taskmasters to anybody. but these are great in the cold. WB-400 is a perfect winter in the rockies weight soft shell. Quote
Sphinx Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 Beck said: the cascades can be cruel cruel taskmasters to anybody. Your hyperbole makes me . Sounds like you wish you were hard, buy you aren't. You hiked up HOOD! OMFG, can I lick your boots? Yeah, winter is tough all right...good thing you're tuff enuff to HANDLE IT! Quote
allthumbs Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 Sphinx said: Beck said: the cascades can be cruel cruel taskmasters to anybody. Your hyperbole makes me . Sounds like you wish you were hard, buy you aren't. You hiked up HOOD! OMFG, can I lick your boots? Yeah, winter is tough all right...good thing you're tuff enuff to HANDLE IT! STFU Sphinx. Like him or not, Beck's been at this shit hardcore longer than I imagine you've been alive. Give it a fucking rest already. BTW, where's YOUR fucking climbing resume, chump? Quote
Sphinx Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 trask said: Sphinx said: Beck said: the cascades can be cruel cruel taskmasters to anybody. Your hyperbole makes me . Sounds like you wish you were hard, buy you aren't. You hiked up HOOD! OMFG, can I lick your boots? Yeah, winter is tough all right...good thing you're tuff enuff to HANDLE IT! STFU Sphinx. Like him or not, Beck's been at this shit hardcore longer than I imagine you've been alive. Give it a fucking rest already. BTW, where's YOUR fucking climbing resume, chump? Where's YOUR resume? Chump. I haven't ever read a TR by Beck about something technical. Quote
JayB Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 Enough with the Beck bashing already. The guy's got a lot experience and I appreciate the information he shares about gear on this board. Quote
mammut_rep Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 rbw1966 said: I'm with the lawgoddess. I dropped the coin for a pair of mammut schoeller pants and I love them. I almost never wear my bibs anymore. They shed water just dandy, dry quickly, are comfy, wind-resistant and are pimp. Quote
iain Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I'm telling you, schoeller has been around since saturday night fever, travolta's pants are fine alpine threads Quote
Attitude Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 iain said: I'm telling you, schoeller has been around since saturday night fever, travolta's pants are fine alpine threads I'm waiting to buy a matching white schoeller jacket to go over a black polypro shirt and complete the ice cream suit look. Staying alive, staying alive Ahh, ahh, ahh, ahh, Staying alive, staying alive Quote
Dru Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 i bet you already have white schoeller short-shorts to wear over your black polypro for the baggy diaper look. Quote
cj001f Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 Attitude said: I'm waiting to buy a matching white schoeller jacket to go over a black polypro shirt and complete the ice cream suit look. Staying alive, staying alive Ahh, ahh, ahh, ahh, Staying alive, staying alive Talk about an action suit! Quote
Ursa_Eagle Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 <insert picture of extremomtndude here> Quote
cappellini Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 i have been scoring killer softshell pants at thriftstores for years...there are several varieties but the most common are called dockers....100% performance fabric, allow freedom of movement, and best of all they look great, particularly the ones with pleats and cuffs...oh yea they come in a winter (with wool) and a 3 season variety (all poly)........in all seriousness these pants make the most comfortable climbing pants........ Quote
cj001f Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 cappellini said: i have been scoring killer softshell pants at thriftstores for years...there are several varieties but the most common are called dockers....100% performance fabric, allow freedom of movement, and best of all they look great, particularly the ones with pleats and cuffs...oh yea they come in a winter (with wool) and a 3 season variety (all poly)........in all seriousness these pants make the most comfortable climbing pants........ Do you complete that early Yosemite hardcore climber look with the tattered white dress shirt? Quote
erik Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 cj001f said: cappellini said: i have been scoring killer softshell pants at thriftstores for years...there are several varieties but the most common are called dockers....100% performance fabric, allow freedom of movement, and best of all they look great, particularly the ones with pleats and cuffs...oh yea they come in a winter (with wool) and a 3 season variety (all poly)........in all seriousness these pants make the most comfortable climbing pants........ Do you complete that early Yosemite hardcore climber look with the tattered white dress shirt? yup he does. Quote
Bronco Posted September 18, 2003 Posted September 18, 2003 and a black leather jacket ala "da Fonze". Quote
Beck Posted September 19, 2003 Posted September 19, 2003 my soft shells today for light rain and 60 in the icicle canyon and the tumwater (nice new routes, boys! excellent work on the nut house and puzzle palace!!!) tan stretch knickers of dubious vintage and a heavy cotton button up shirt with collar, but not white! too much grubbing today, i reserve the white shirts for up in the enchantements... Quote
cracked Posted September 26, 2003 Author Posted September 26, 2003 Another note: my Guide pants are pilling like crazy. Quote
erik Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 uhh....all brushed nylon does that. trade them to me...i got a pair of dockers all polyester slacks i'll trade you! they are pimp and uber tech fabric!!! Quote
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