catbirdseat Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 My partner had a cam rotate on him in such a way that some of the lobes were over retracted and we had to give up on it. Some cams have holes in the lobes that facilitate hooking them with a chock pick, but this one was a smaller one that didn't have them. It was so frustrating. Quote
erik Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 1ST LESSON IS TO LEARN HOW TO PLACE THEM PROPERLY. INSPECT B4 REMOVAL, TO SEE HOW THEY WERE PLACED. USE TWO NUT TOOLS USE A HAMMER AND FUNKNESS I THINK THE MOST FUCKED UP STUCK CAM I THE WORLD IS THE ONE SOMEONE LEFT ON AIR GUITAR WHEN THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPEND TO THAT SWEEDISH GUY. I MEAN IF YOU ARE PURPOSFULLY DESTROY A CAM IN THE CRACK AT LEAST REMOVE IT FROM THE CRACK. IT IS FUCKING SICKENING. Quote
catbirdseat Posted May 28, 2003 Author Posted May 28, 2003 If you drill out the axle to essentially disassemble the cam, could you get the axle repaired? Quote
Formaldehead Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 Wrap a sling around the trigger wire, connect the sling to your harness, and weight the sling. Next, get behind the cam lobes with your nut tool and work the cams one by one, until it pops out. Quote
Winter Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 Don't forget about a the good ole spit technique. A little lube can go a long way. It also works well for nuts. Spit early before you get it too fucked up. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 catbirdseat said: If you drill out the axle to essentially disassemble the cam, could you get the axle repaired? I.e. spend about a hundred dollars worth of effort to rescue a ~$50 piece of gear? Whatever tools your nuts, hoss ... Quote
ctuller Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 What??? If I spit on my nuts I can get a stuck cam outta that rock??? How the hell does that work? Quote
catbirdseat Posted May 28, 2003 Author Posted May 28, 2003 Formaldehead said: Wrap a sling around the trigger wire, connect the sling to your harness, and weight the sling. Next, get behind the cam lobes with your nut tool and work the cams one by one, until it pops out. The trigger bar had actually bottomed out against the wire loop. It could not be pulled any farther. Also, the tip of the lobes were against the rock on one side. The lobes were jammed in like a passive chock. Quote
snoboy Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 Just tell us where it is. Someone will go get it. There are very few cams that are really stuck. I have gotten out every stuck cam I ever found. Pulling it sideways is a good tip too. I like the spit idea though... Quote
erik Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 SPIT TO LUBE? HAVENT DONE THAT SINCE I WAS DATING....ERRRR Quote
fern Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 put the nut tool at one end of the axle and hammer the thing parallel to the axle into a less restrictive spot. A rock makes a handy hammer, though more often I use a carabiner brass-knuckles style and punch the thing with aggression. Better to not let them get stuck. Quote
chucK Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 Where is it? This could be a great CC.com contest! Quote
erik Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 chucK said: Where is it? This could be a great CC.com contest! we should have a contest to see who can clean that cam out of air guitar. Quote
catbirdseat Posted May 28, 2003 Author Posted May 28, 2003 I tried using a rock as a hammer the nut tool. It wouldn't budge and millimeter. Quote
Winter Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 Give up on the fucking cam and move on with your life man. Its toast anyway. Leave it for the cc.com vultures that are willing to climg on cams with frayed trigger wires and warped heads. You animals. Quote
catbirdseat Posted May 28, 2003 Author Posted May 28, 2003 It's funny that people are willing to leave pitons as fixed pieces, but they will beat a cam all to shit to get it out, even when they know it will be useless by the time they succeed. Quote
iain Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 bad karma to knock out the old school pins. you gotta clip those old school pins on beacon rock routes, feel the energy of those hardpersons before you. yeah sure they probably won't hold a fall but it's all about the vibes, friend. Quote
iain Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 seems that your two problems of stuck cams and sewing machine leg could be combined for a positive outcome. if you get a stuck cam, just climb a bit higher and get really sketched out to jackhammer the sucker out with your heel see there is a positive side to everything. Quote
catbirdseat Posted May 28, 2003 Author Posted May 28, 2003 Yeah, I know what you mean. It is sort of a tie with the past. Quote
Mr._Natural Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 cbs, i checked out that cam and it looked like a funkness would be required to clean it. this treatment could have very well tweaked purty bad though. not sure abiout the girth hitching the trigger bar and bounce testing as the trigger bar had very little clearance left. at least it wasnt a camalot. Quote
catbirdseat Posted May 28, 2003 Author Posted May 28, 2003 Excuse the clueless, but what is a funkness? Quote
Bronco Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 catbirdseat said: Excuse the clueless, but what is a funkness? from the fish website: THE COOL JERK: The Cool Jerk is a length of 5/32" cable, 32" long, with a loop swaged into each end. Use it to clean Heads, RURPs, and some pins by clipping into the piece and looping the other end over your hammer head. Take a wild swipe at the air and when this baby comes taut, action is assured. The low stretch of the cable, coupled with the velocity of the hammer mass make for a mighty force at the offending piece. Plus, on those rare occasions when the piece rifles out and the whole ensemble hits you in the arm, it gives you something to think about besides your next lead. Think of it as "distraction through pain" therapy. $6.75 ea. Quote
ScottP Posted May 29, 2003 Posted May 29, 2003 Bronco said: catbirdseat said: Excuse the clueless, but what is a funkness? from the fish website: THE COOL JERK: The Cool Jerk is a length of 5/32" cable, 32" long, with a loop swaged into each end. Use it to clean Heads, RURPs, and some pins by clipping into the piece and looping the other end over your hammer head. Take a wild swipe at the air and when this baby comes taut, action is assured. The low stretch of the cable, coupled with the velocity of the hammer mass make for a mighty force at the offending piece. Plus, on those rare occasions when the piece rifles out and the whole ensemble hits you in the arm, it gives you something to think about besides your next lead. Think of it as "distraction through pain" therapy. $6.75 ea. Quote
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