toptimmy Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 I need to take some rock classes.After reading one of the post I am a little aprehensive about a mountaineer class considering they take 50 people at a time.other options would include WAC or guide service.Money is a consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 Call up Cascade Crags, they are up in Everett, and offer both indoor and outdoor classes. Â http://www.cascadecrags.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rodchester Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 www.mountainmadness.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 toptimmy said: Money is a consideration. you can buy beer for many people who will let you belay them and learn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Simpkins Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 American Alpine Institute  The guides at Basecamp in Bellingham are good too. I think they have a class/trip. Call and ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptimmy Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 this is the best yet.I could be A belay slave that provides beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 you could go to Leavenworth this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 toptimmy said: this is the best yet.I could be A belay slave that provides beer. Â Best and cheapest way to learn for most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Vertical World. Ask for Andy or Adam, they are awsome instructos and can teach about anything you want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 You have to tell us more about what you want to learn. Are you interested in sport climbing? Trad climbing at crags mostly? Alpine? Glacier? Ice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Cobra said: toptimmy said: this is the best yet.I could be A belay slave that provides beer. Â Best and cheapest way to learn for most people. Â Only "best" if your goal is to become a belay slave. Only "cheapest" if you find "instructors" who are lightweights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 chucK said: Cobra said: toptimmy said: this is the best yet.I could be A belay slave that provides beer. Â Best and cheapest way to learn for most people. Â Only "best" if your goal is to become a belay slave. Only "cheapest" if you find "instructors" who are lightweights. Â If and if and if. Pot is cheaper than beer anyway. Â You're too cool for the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Cobra said: Pot is cheaper than beer anyway. Â Depends on the lightweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whirlwind Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 pot only cheaper than beer if u dont smoke it as far as climbing goes, sport is usally the easyest to learn just don't get stuck clipin bolts forever. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptimmy Posted April 24, 2003 Author Share Posted April 24, 2003 I have only been taught the very basics belay,foot placements,hand placements all done indoors.I went with private lessons at stone gardens A year ago.I have spent alot of time in the mountains around here and lived in Mt. Shasta area for about 5 years, mostly solo trips up(not to the top) and around the mountain and climbing by myself around castle crags.I am interested in instruction geared more towards Alpine rock if that makes any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 chucK said: Cobra said: Pot is cheaper than beer anyway. Depends on the lightweight. Â Ragweed is for welfare recipients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remlec Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Wouldn't NECESSARILY rule out mountaineer classes. Class size depends on branch and what you're really looking for is instructor to student ratio. Tacoma and Olympia run about 1 instructor to four students with rock weekends usually under 30 students per day. Also, it doesn't get a whole lot less expensive than that short of friends teaching friends. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 toptimmy said: this is the best yet.I could be A belay slave that provides beer. Â How old are you? What gear do you have (climbing and bivy)? Have you been in the Enchantments? North Cascades? What grade do you climb at now? And finally, how far can you carry a keg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 toptimmy said: I have only been taught the very basics belay,foot placements,hand placements all done indoors.I went with private lessons at stone gardens A year ago.I have spent alot of time in the mountains around here and lived in Mt. Shasta area for about 5 years, mostly solo trips up(not to the top) and around the mountain and climbing by myself around castle crags.I am interested in instruction geared more towards Alpine rock if that makes any sense. Â Determine exactly what you want to learn by looking through books. Â Then go and hire a rock guide OR carry lots of ragweed and olympia 12 packs and seek out climbing mentors. Ask your guide or ragweed climbing mentor to show you a few things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptimmy Posted April 24, 2003 Author Share Posted April 24, 2003 37,most time in washington has been east side of rainier and goat rocks area.I have backpacking gear(tent,stove,bag)but the only climbing gear is shoes,harness and belay device.I dont know what grade I climb at.Im A big guy so I guess I could carry a keg about 20 feet with no ice.too bad they dont have party balls anymore eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 If you show up at Pub Club I don't doubt that you'll leave with a climbing partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Actually, I disagree with that. I think you need a certain level of skill before hooking up with partners at pub club becomes realistic. It's not a big threshold to cross though. And if you stick with the board for a little while you'll most likely find a couple of folks that have a similar level of experience and then you can go out and learn together, as long as you are careful, read the books and don't get in over your heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 toptimmy said: 37,most time in washington has been east side of rainier and goat rocks area.I have backpacking gear(tent,stove,bag)but the only climbing gear is shoes,harness and belay device.I dont know what grade I climb at.Im A big guy so I guess I could carry a keg about 20 feet with no ice.too bad they dont have party balls anymore eh? I'm meeting a friend in Leavenworth this weekend. Next weekend we could go up to Index if you don't mind two little girls coming along (5 and 7). They talk alot but won't climb. PM me. I'll answer next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 toptimmy said: 37,most time in washington has been east side of rainier and goat rocks area.I have backpacking gear(tent,stove,bag)but the only climbing gear is shoes,harness and belay device.I dont know what grade I climb at.Im A big guy so I guess I could carry a keg about 20 feet with no ice.too bad they dont have party balls anymore eh? Â East side of Rainier and the Goat Rocks? Where've you found rock to climb in there? It's all choss in the GR Wilderness area. Has it been more hiking/scrambling than climbing? Did you live over here on the eastside? Â I live in Yakivegas; maybe we could hook up sometime. I'm early 40s, and used to be a hardman trad climber. Now I'm just an old hardman wannabeagain. If interested, PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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