tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 AlpineK said: tomcat said: What about me? ME ME ME! Round 7! Yeah what about you? Just like a liberal, no facts just talk. YAP YAP YAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 trask said: Catturd - My agruments have been posted for the last three months. I'm done arguing. Now I'm kickin' back with some little smokies and a beer and enjoying the Big Show. Give it a rest. I know it's wrong of me to say, but at this point it's a little like watching a football game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 if it was an invasion then how come they choked huh? im not saying there weren't incursions into iraqi territory, but there was no invasion per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 I don't believe oil is the real reason we're invading. The real reason is Bush want to make up for his pappy's failure to push to Bagdad in '91. He's out to uphold the family honor, Texas style, if it kills us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 AlpineK said: trask said: Catturd - My agruments have been posted for the last three months. I'm done arguing. Now I'm kickin' back with some little smokies and a beer and enjoying the Big Show. Give it a rest. I know it's wrong of me to say, but at this point it's a little like watching a football game. exactly, no one is gonna change anyone else's opinion so we might as well drink stuff and troll the crew who still think their amazing rhetorical point is gonna switch everyone to their side of things. So...what about Ghaddafi? He was Mr Evil in the 80's and now he makes nice. Who's to say Saddam left in peace wouldn't pull the same turn around? Maybe if we sent him a bunch of Mormon chicks from Utah he'd convert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 It moves so slowly, it's more like a Cricket match than a football game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 tomcat said: AlpineK said: tomcat said: What about me? ME ME ME! Round 7! Yeah what about you? Just like a liberal, no facts just talk. YAP YAP YAP. Dude take a pill. You've missed my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 are you guys talking about the war or this thread huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Well, I sure do hope I stirred the shit tonight. My how I love to do just that. Some of you sound like you need a wake up call (or a history lesson). Get to "informing" yourselves and quit listening to your dumb friends when they say, "no war for oil". There's a legitimate reason why we're at war right now .. and that's to protect you and your loved ones from an immense, imminent threat. You may never know this threat thanks to your armed forces who are risking their necks to protect you whiners. LONG LIVE THE SPRAY FORUM FOR TIMES LIKE THESE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 AlpineK said: trask said: Catturd - My agruments have been posted for the last three months. I'm done arguing. Now I'm kickin' back with some little smokies and a beer and enjoying the Big Show. Give it a rest. I know it's wrong of me to say, but at this point it's a little like watching a football game. It's not wrong Kurt. Hell, the soldiers are all jacked up for this thing too. It's like the SuperBowl. Latest stats: over 20% republican guard defection rate. We're into Iraq on the south, west and northern borders. The whole regime is close to collapsing. Saddam is considered to be seriously wounded or dead. The big bombing in Baghdad may NOT be needed. Projections: War's over by Monday. Everybody down with a big party in Baghdad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 AlpineK said: tomcat said: AlpineK said: tomcat said: What about me? ME ME ME! Round 7! Yeah what about you? Just like a liberal, no facts just talk. YAP YAP YAP. Dude take a pill. You've missed my point. Pill taken .. what was the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 If the fact that the victory is easily won justifies the invasion why not go after Nepal next. How dare those bastards take almost a monopoly on 8000m peaks and not give the US any? Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 tomcat said: AlpineK said: tomcat said: AlpineK said: tomcat said: What about me? ME ME ME! Round 7! Yeah what about you? Just like a liberal, no facts just talk. YAP YAP YAP. Dude take a pill. You've missed my point. Pill taken .. what was the point? Notice I'm doing the quote thing to piss off catbirdseat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Dru, go get laid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Trask, I sure hope you are right and the war is over quickly. That would be the best thing that could happen. It would minimize the damage to our relations with Europe and the Muslim world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 tomcat said: tomcat said: AlpineK said: tomcat said: AlpineK said: tomcat said: What about me? ME ME ME! Round 7! Yeah what about you? Just like a liberal, no facts just talk. YAP YAP YAP. Dude take a pill. You've missed my point. Pill taken .. what was the point? Notice I'm doing the quote thing to piss off catbirdseat. I'm talking about your need for attention this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Hey Tomcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Dru said: If the fact that the victory is easily won justifies the invasion why not go after Nepal next. How dare those bastards take almost a monopoly on 8000m peaks and not give the US any? Huh? Dude, you are so dense! The next country on our snit list is FRANCE! How DARE they disagree with us...never mind that without their help we'd still be eating boiled food and drinking warm beer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Hey, I resent that! I don't need no stinking attention .. If I did need attention I'd be making a bunch of posts one after the other trying to pull people into an unnecessary argument about war. Err umm ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 catbirdseat said: Trask, I sure hope you are right and the war is over quickly. That would be the best thing that could happen. It would minimize the damage to our relations with Europe and the Muslim world. Don't worry dude, the middle eastern countries and the europeans will be kissing our asses for decades to come. The United States has just shown the world that we will not take shit from anyone. Especially some pint of piss like saddam. We are the SHIZ hooyah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Trask, I wish I could share your enthusiasm for war. Somehow, I can't. War is like going to court. You never know how it's going to turn out. Better to settle out of court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 allison said: Dru said: If the fact that the victory is easily won justifies the invasion why not go after Nepal next. How dare those bastards take almost a monopoly on 8000m peaks and not give the US any? Huh? Dude, you are so dense! The next country on our snit list is FRANCE! How DARE they disagree with us...never mind that without their help we'd still be eating boiled food and drinking warm beer! It's over for the french. They've embarrassed themselves beyond words. What fucking tools. They don't amount to anything anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 catbirdseat said: Trask, I wish I could share your enthusiasm for war. Somehow, I can't. War is like going to court. You never know how it's going to turn out. Better to settle out of court. you sound like a goddamn attorney btw, I'm not enthralled with war. it's necessary some times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 fleblebleb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 Sorry, got distracted. tomcat said: But HOW is oil a reason behind the war? What circumstances lead you to believe we are going after Iraq's oil? Was it the statement by the US that all riches seized in this conflict will be returned to the Iraqi people? I could see how that could be confusing .. how about the fact that we didn't take their oil in the 1991 Gulf War? Yeah, all signs point to oil. Let's simply assume, and not argue, that the US is not after oil in Iraq. True or not, it is beside the point for now. That doesn't preclude oil from being a reason behind the war. Oil is the only notable natural resource in the middle east. It's therefore a main reason for western involvement in the politics of the region, especially since the Cold War concluded. Without oil money some of the more or less feudal governments in Arabic nations could not hold onto power, possibly including Hussein's. Oil money also supports the fundis and by that token, oil in some ways could be construed to be a reason behind 9-11. Beyond that, without the oil interest the fundis objection to western presence in Islamic countries would be pointed at Israel only. What led Hussein to invade Kuwait? It was likely oil, and even more so improved access to the Gulf - for shipping oil. Without the Kuwait invasion, would there be an Iraq war? Western civilization is heavily dependent on oil for transportation and other things. Would pulling out of the middle east be an option? What if there were no oil there? Would there be any reason to be there in the first place? How is oil NOT a reason behind the war? Actually, there are more things that are easy to pick apart than just the connection between your first and second sentence. "Taking" an oil field in 1991 is somewhat of a perplexing notion, you can't just load these things onto a tanker and ship out. Instead you have to take political control of the region containing the oil fields, which Bush senior apparently deemed too costly considering the possible military opposition, international fallout etc. Of course, retaining control of oil fields while returning the profits of oil sales to the population is not that complicated, since whoever is in control gets to decide how much is profit and how much is cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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