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freeclimb9 said:

 

no shit, Einstein.

 

Ah, a fellow Nobel Laureate, are you? 'Cause it seems like a lot of people here couldn't be bothered to give a squirt of piss for all the faceless targets cowering in their Baghdad basements, praying to God or Allah or whoever that they don't wind up with a lapful of cluster bombs.

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DFA, not that I endorse this war in any way, but just to play devil's advocate

 

1.)imagine all the innocent german civilians that were bombed in WWII

 

2.)think of all the people who tied in the 9/11 attacks

 

3.)think of all the kurds who were gassed and otherwise tortured and killed by sadaam

 

4.)think of all the iraqi citizens that have been tortured or killed under sadaams regeime for speaking their mind

 

Like I said, I'm against this war for the present reasons, but it's at least worth painting more than a tiny bit of the picture.

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Believe it or not DFA, I think that a lot of planning is going into an attempt on our part to get their army to capitulate upfront, and minimize the war. The people who are sneering at propaganda won't appreciate it if/when it is shown to have been effective at reducing overall casualties.

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Look, folks, the original post was intended to get the resident cc.com hawks to think about casualties on both sides of the fence. Seems that American lives are generally extremely precious to war supporters, while those of the "enemy" are generally thought little of, if they're thought of at all.

 

And hey, if leaflets from the sky will save lives, DFA is all for more leafleting.

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cracked said:

You guys ever surfed the human-rights abuses websites? You know what's already happening to the people over there? What Saddam does makes a nuke look friendly.

 

Blowin' them up is way better than the torture they are sure to suffer at the hands of Saddam. confused.gif

 

You can't invade a country, because their dictatorial leader is violates the human rights of his own citizens.

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I say kill all of the sand * pull-start towel heads that we can. Bloast the shit out of there mud huts, even though they don't live in mud huts, but houses, condos, and apartments, just like you and I. They deserves everything that they get for what they may have done, or could do, if the could do it and wanted to. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. 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Not my point Winter. That man is EVIL. I think we all agree on that. Not to mention a threat to us, and to the rest of the world. It is irresponsible to ignore this. Of course there will be casualties on both sides. Duh. But it's the old theory of "killing people to save lives".

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cracked said:

Not my point Winter. That man is EVIL. I think we all agree on that. Not to mention a threat to us, and to the rest of the world. It is irresponsible to ignore this. Of course there will be casualties on both sides. Duh. But it's the old theory of "killing people to save lives".

 

Ok exactly why is this man a threat to us? Because if we invade he is going to shoot back? Its irresponsible to exacerbate anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and to unite the moderate and extreme wings of the Muslim religion all in the name of protecting us from a country that can't touch us. Where's the imminent threat?

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'Cause it seems like a lot of people here couldn't be bothered to give a squirt of piss for all the faceless targets cowering in their Baghdad basements…

 

.Seems that American lives are generally extremely precious to war supporters, while those of the "enemy" are generally thought little of, if they're thought of at all.

 

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These kind of statements make you look like an asshole. To think that most war supporters don’t give a damn about human casualties is complete goofiness and reveals contempt for others that can be construed as nothing more than vanity.

 

For the record, all things being equal given the choice between a 19 year old American soldier (whom by the way you believe is a murderer) and equally innocent Iraqi, I would pick the American to live. I would of course be open to your detailed discussion on the relative innocence of an American soldier compared to an Iraqi newborn, aged woman, teenager or whomever. As in our previous discussion after the sloganeering ends I am sure your thought process will prove to be empty.

 

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