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Seriously Ray, if this thing has any collector value or even the potential of having collector value DO NOT reconditon it. Refinishing the metal or wood will ruin it's collector value. MattP's right, collector's love the old time petina and distressed wood look. It's funny as shit watching that antique show on pbs where some rube had a $50k piece of victorian furniture that's now only worth $10k because they stripped the old paint off and stained it

Want your guide book back before you go? before the eats it

Don't do it ray. These guys say so.

cool I think chair peak is slowly being pushed aside as cc.com's favorite climb !! We'll have to find a new route that everyone can gang up on next winter.

Wow fern, you could write for J Peterman

In fact Greg_W retrieved it and he was the one that told me it wouldn't have held a thing

Yes. I did this once, it made me feel better, but it wouldn't have held a thing.

the sit start involves an m-9ish move that is way heinous. it awaits a send.

Way to go !! Was up there saturday and took a look at it, since my partner hadn't done any alpine before we decided against it and did the s.face instead. Looked like there was a lot of coverage, was that all powder snow, or was any of it neve?

I'm now going to reveal the fact that I've climbed that thing way too many times ... there are actually two rap anchors for the second rap, one of which is about 15' higher than the other, in low snow conditions the lower one should be exposed - as it gets buried the high one is available. As of three weeks ago the high one is in reach with a good stretch of the arm.

If you do bring a rope, a single 50 will get you to the second rap anchor in the gully - it's a sling with a rap ring on a monster pin on the left .. it's way obvious.

Did you start the scented potpourri going and draw yourself a bath too ?

I can't believe you actually gave a serious response to that

yeah tim, I must've missed those

I've been up that trail three times since it "closed" to uphill traffic and that's exactly the vibe I got. Be discreet and it's all good.

Hey I'm an "R" too We do do the right thing now and again

Rodchester, I didn't consider the point you make. I hope you're right that there is a sunset provision in the original legislation that means: no bill = no fee demo. One other alternative though if this dies, might be a last minute extension, with the intention of revisiting this later. Other than the departments themselves (FS, BLM) who is pushing the reauthorization of the demo program? Is there a powerful committe chair out there that can wheel and deal favors to bring this back?

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but remember the stupid psa with the cartoon "bill" on the steps of the capital trying to become a law? S1107 has been voted out of comittee. It still needs a full floor vote. the house has their version that has to go through the same process. then it probably gets attached to some giant piece of legislation that then has to go to conference. then that has to pass both houses. At any one of these steps this can get derailed. good news for sure , but a long way to go yet.

most likely that big room betwix the shitters and world wraps. you goin' greg?

that's why I called it "kick ass"

Tim, The northern New Hampshire climbs should be way quicker to get to than the Adirondacks. Go to North Conway, NH and go to the IME (International Mountain Equipment) climbing shop in the center of town. The owner there (Rick Wilcox) is the guide book author for the area "An Ice Climber's Guide To Northern New England". (Wild Things is also in town) If the weather cooperates, and you don't mind a two hour approach, do the climbs on huntignton ravine on Mt. Washington. Great big alpine feel on a small kick ass mountain. The classic is Pinnacle gulley, but there are others like Odell's gulley. There is also a log cabin in the ravine called the harvard cabin that costs like $5 and has a wood burning stove. The gf might think it's romantic. It's super rustic though. Also right outside of town are the frankenstein cliffs, an area accessed by an old rail grade. Super easy access and good climbs, everything from Standard at like WI3 to harder stuff at 5. The person to respond to this is Ice Ice Baby, he knows all the NY stuff as well. Have fun, -john

Cool. What's the deal with "class six" ?

Steve, we did the standard descent down the gully that ends up in front of the east face. The second rap anchor (the one on the giant pin) is a bit of a reach, but ok.

NO !! he smoked me on the approach, he said it was some new energy drink he was on.