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Tom, Check your PMs.

Interesting... That has not been our experience. Perhaps things have changed for the better. Thanks for the update, gslater.

Not unless you're American Indian. Driving access thru the res is out if you're not native. They won't even let Mountain Rescue into the res that way on missions. However, if you were to go stealth...

Although I was gallavanting about on Old Snowy this past weekend, I learned upon my return that there was a mission on the south side of Adams this past weekend. Two male climbers, 68 and 70 years old, were listed as overdue. Upon discovery in an area west of the Lunch Counter, one was found alive and well. The other was dead from what has been attributed as "natural causes". Body was retrieved and brought down via litter to trailhead. My condolences to his family. ...sobo

From the summit of OS, I could see that the only snow from Snowgrass Flats is a short patch on the PCT before you reach the summit trail. Inconsequential. Headed out to Ives, but looked again at the watch, thought about family and shit, and bailed off the east side into another drainage basin which was two basins south of my approach. Long story short, I got back to the tent in less time than it took to summit from it, but got way mored scared-ass shitless as I downclimbed two steeeeep trundle gullies with nasty run-outs while trying to avoid waterfalls. Following water courses is not always the best method to lose elevation. Eventually I chose wisely at my contour point, and held elevation on an elk trail around the east flank of a large unnamed peak, and eventually came out in the basin south of McCall Basin. Easy stumble down the peak and up over the ridge into McCall. Found my beer in the stream, enjoyed it, and headed out. Knees and quads hurt right now. Great views of Adams, Helens, Rainier, and the Big Horn group. Clear day, coolish in the breeze, and flowers were abundant and awesome. Skeeters weren't bad at all at night, but watch out for biting black flies during the hotter parts of the afternoon. A guy came up from Yakima (50 years old or so) and said he left the NF Tieton River trailhead at 8:45 Sunday morning. He arrived at the summit just after me at 12:15. Said he ran a lot of the way up to McCall Basin. Three and one half hours to cover about 7 miles of trail, then 2 miles of boulder tripping and shwackin', and almost 5,000 feet of vert! Didn't have nothin' on but his Merrell's (sort of - a hydration pack was all he carried from what I could tell). He came back through McCall at 4:00 pm. At his rate he was probably out of the parking lot by 6:00. I only hope that I'm in that good of shape when I turn 50!

This thread hath lain three years in its grave, wherefore surely, it stinketh.

Thats what I was shooting for Aw right, 1 point for cleverness. But I didn't ask any questions... (although some would call me clueless...)

Yeah, I've done it quite a lot. It's really quite simple. Go to your local international airport, buy a ticket, board the plane, have a few complimentary drinks, and once the plane gets to cruising altitude, you've effectively acclimatized to 8,000 meters. Shouldn't take more than an hour or two once you take off! Actually, "At a 39,000 foot cruise altitude, the cabin pressure is equivalent to 6,900 feet or pressure of 11.5 psi (about) 450 feet less than Mexico City. reference here That wasn't the point, Aaron. The point was that was a smartass answer to an inane question from an obstensibly clueless person who supposedly is leading an expedition to an 8000m peak. See olyclimber's post immediately following yours. That was the target for which I was aiming. Just good ol' down home smartass answers to a blatant troll of a thread.

That would just be poor form... unless it was replaced by a newer edition!

Ralph, you're killin' me... again!

Yeah, I've done it quite a lot. It's really quite simple. Go to your local international airport, buy a ticket, board the plane, have a few complimentary drinks, and once the plane gets to cruising altitude, you've effectively acclimatized to 8,000 meters. Shouldn't take more than an hour or two once you take off!

I already put dibs on those at the top of this page!

Nice job, BD and Dad! Way to come out of "climbing retirement", girl!

ryland and griz; I want in on some of that action, too. I wager the Sherpas will desert within 5 days of being hired. No one left but the "007 American Cho Oye Expedition" to haul their shit back home. Oh yeah, someone gets killed along the way, but we all agree on that. I call "shotgun" on the movie and TV rights right now! Lesse, get Chris O'Donnell as 007... Cho Oye

Thanks, cluck. I was thinking about doing a solo link-up of Snowy, Ives, and CG this weekend, as the wife and kid will be visiting my in-laws, and I'm in need of a peak-bag fix or some other form of vertical entertainment. Sorry to hear about Cluck's abduction. Glad to hear you got your gear back, at least. Fuckin' criminals!

I think that's kinda disingenuous, Michael. Gator and his crew might take umbrage with your statements... Damn, Dox, ya beat me to it.

Purdy much. Wait until Sept. and do the Tieton. Freeman: You are correct in your understanding of the "flip-flop". Took me a while to get it when I first moved out here, but then nobody ever explained it to me really well. fenderfour: I think that those were the same guys we used. River sumpin. And the Methow gets my vote for the best ride. We did it in May a few years back when it was really up. What a hoot!

I've run the Tieton (during flip-flop) and the Methow, both with an outfit called River Runners, or something close to that. I think they're out of Wenatchee or Chelan. Of the two rivers, I thought the Methow was way more fun. Some friends of mine (that did the Tieton and Methow with me) went and did the Wenatchee, and they said it more fun than the Methow. So from that, it would seem the Wenatchee would be a fun ride, but I don't know that from personal experience. My $0.02.

That direction is pretty wide open and has a (mostly) western exposure, so most snow should be gone by now below 7,000. A month ago, via NF Tieton River trail to PCT to McCall, it was clear and dry to about 6,000. Now, I would say that you could expect clear sailing to about 7,000. It's just a short skip above that to the summit, as you must know. I think you'll be just fine going in that way. How old is the kid?

It was pretty snowed up about a month ago (July 4 weekend), and it's been hot as Hades here for the last several weeks. I imagine there's still a lot of snow, but nothing that I wouldn't consider taking the kid on. Bring along a spare pair of shoes and change of socks for her. Bread bags make good waterproof barriers to keep feet from getting cold. Which way you heading in? Trail should be pretty dry from NF Tieton to McCall Basin now. Again, my beta is close to a month old now. Mebbe someone else who's been there more recently will chime in.

OC, I don't know whether she runs marathons or not, but I know she runs triathlons and then climbs volcanoes the day after... Send a PM to climberchica of this board. Mebbe she has some ideers. Just a thought...

It's Latin, meaning "and Cetera", as in Peter Cetera. So if someone says, "For your 8K expedition, you'll need 200 lb. of horsecock, 50 lb. of Gore-Tex, some actual climbing experience, suckers to carry your gear, etcetera," they mean you'll want this guy along with you for "Inspiration": Good one, Ralph! You're killin' me! BTW, 007: You still haven't answered The Burning Question that's been posed several times now... WTF have you climbed? And oh yeah, what ken4ord said.

FOUND IT! Thanks, mvs, for the "secret beta." Wow, 'bone, what a way to hang in there. Props to the gurlz, too. Ya know, it's almost two years ago now to the very day...

Closest thing I found was a TR of your NR Stuart trip in September of '02, just post-honeymoon. Nothing about a cell phone and a GF in there, tho... My search terms: Username: Lambone Search terms: cell phone + girlfriend (in subject and body) Forums: all Dates: any date Main posts only Please advise more specific search entries for next query. I'm interested in hearing the story, but a little for beta to refine the search would be good. TIA

Why the frowny-face icon? Ya bagged it, didncha? Nice apres' meeting doings!