erik

i think charlie was meaning homey's and that is why he can never get anyone to go with him. cause the chicks in e-burg are scandalous and don't mind a little cop feeling!? charlie is vp sill alive- i heard that he was abducted by aliens.

NO, MOBILES The Bush administration yesterday let stand a rule approved by former President Clinton to ban snowmobiles in Yellowstone and Grand Teton national parks, but it said that it hoped to craft a compromise in the near future to amend the rule and allow some snowmobile use to continue. The rule, finalized on Clinton's last day in office, outlaws recreational snowmobiles in the parks by the winter of 2003-04. To the dismay of enviros, attorneys working for Interior Secretary Gale Norton are trying to reach a settlement with snowmobile users, manufacturers, and others who have sued over the ban. The U.S. EPA has found that snowmobiles cause "significant environmental and human health impacts." straight to the source: Los Angeles Times, Deborah Schoch, 24 Apr 2001 <http://www.latimes.com/news/science/environ/20010424/t000034604.html> straight to the source: Billings Gazette, Associated Press, 22 Apr 2001 <http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?section=wyoming&display=cont ent/wyoming/0snowmobiles.inc> YEAH!

don't have the khamsin, though i do have the nozone which is made from similar rip stop nylon. after a little less then a year of fair use. i have several holes in the pack from abrasion. the ripstop has done its job and not ripped anymore. i believe that the khamsin's are more of technical hiking pack where abrasion shouldn't be as a big a problem. lightweight fabrics equal lightwieght use. a note the nozone fabric is double layered so might be a little stronger. where as the the khamsin is not. these packs are great though i highly doubt that the pack will last the summer without extensive repairs. either way spend YOUR money the way YOU see fit.

the sign is a memorial to a guy who died or something. it has been years since i have been out there but it is a memorial. those cliffs are mossy as shit too. i hope you had fun.

pretty hard for 10c

chcuk i thought that midway direct direct was the one with bolts 5.9 and then miday direct was naturaly protected. when i did it ac ouplw weeks ago i felt the climbing and protection was all there even without the bolt(s). fun route though eh?!

http://www.nps.gov/morningreport/msg00828.html here is the unfortunate official report for the recovery of one of the missing climbers on Baker.

simuli climibing is a valuable tool. i try to practice simuli climbing with my standard partners on most routes 5.8 and below. and sometimes harder than that. i agree that the less experienced climber should always lead as a fall would result in some serious consequences. though a little tip that might save you is to use tiblocs on pieces that protect crux moves. it allows for a micro belay and you can still keep moving. soloing i can climb in givlers in about 10 minutes while simuli i can do it in about 15, depending if you want to fiddle with gear. i have seen parties take forever on this nice little climb. simuli climbing saves some serious time is my point. arches in yose can be climbed in just over an hour with competent teams . dragontail is another one that we climbed simul and flew up the poor thing. (plus i had to be at work a couple hours later in tacoma) but climbiing with running belays should only be undertaken by experienced and confiedent climbers as the chance for mistakes is too great. i never simul unless it is wihthin the brohood. climb safe and never take unknown risks. $.03 have fun this weekend cause i am going too!

blakely, in the late 70's and early 80's in the valley epoxys and other adhesives were tried, so that "clean" climbing over blank faces could happen. mixed results and a stoners attention span killed it off. this is evident on the cololmbia boulder(the one with midnight lightning on it) so sarcasm is not at all called for(on this occasion). mitch is right, we can do all sorts of crazy techno things, though it comes down to money and time and money....... it has been said over and over and over if you can't do it ground up you can't do it. and agian i request that the other side shed light on their side of the story....so we may all make a more informed discussion....

sheeezz....bro a smokescreen...you better becareful with threats like that you are going to get every crazy/lazy american chargin the borders..... if you canajuns fly like you drive we are in trouble...and if i remember right canada doesn't export potatoes....(watch out idaho!!foreshadowing!?) i would also try to kill myself i if lived in a socialist country.....long live capitalism!!!!!

there are reports of a small american strike force making a move on the canadian front of squish... mothers...fathers....all american wish these brave young men luck as they venture into the canadian zone. mission log advanced kayking scouts went up earlier this week and checked out some crazy canadain creeks....these creeks seem similar to the steep kayaking creeks in washington...though the natives seemed friendlier....except for the ones with fishing poles. the granite was dry with a light covering of patina. ground forces will be moved in soon to over take the splitter cracks and maybe even lower some grades. task force 69 out......................

dan smith or anyone else, you said that you know the guys well that are bolting the face. i have a feeling that you have talked to them about this little forum. i think in all fairness that they should respond to all this banter. so we can hear their side of the story. a witch hunt is a witch hunt, but are they witches? i/WE don't know. i absolutly 110% think that they should not bolt the south early winter spire in a purely bolted line. and personally think that they should remove the bolts personally. but as of yet that is only an uneducated statement made my me. there is always two sides of the story. lets hear em' both. now if the guys are posting under alias then forgot it. if you can't be proud for what you did and make your side heard then you are a problem and should have never done it. you have to stand up for yourself. it really sounds like most poeple are saying the same thing, just in different contexts. anyone!

dbb, what are you talking about? Tom you troller... All you guys flaming him can remember that when you clip in to the solid belay bolts on town crier--he put em there. who? i know those guys who did that. no tom in the team.

sticky man....very sticky....I think that what makes a route classic in not position or exposure or even memorable moves...the thing that makes all routes classic is the memories that you have with your friends doing them...the only thing that makes a route classic is you! if you had fun and enjoyed being in a beautiful place with good people on crappy rock(or whatever) then viola' a classic... that and if chicks dig it!

http://bouldering.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000026.html i climbed here like 6 yrs ago. not that cool. i guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i also like the comment about someone going bolt crazy and spacing them 8-10 ft apart. now that is sporting in a non-sporting world. have fun

bring your fisherman gordan gear for the bugs in june and july and have fun. [This message has been edited by erik (edited 04-13-2001).]

hey guys i don't race em any more. i know how bad they are. i got 50 stches in may face from going over the handle bars in 6th gear. iwas using my past experience to illustrate the point that two-strokes are bad. my parents have given me grief over climbing since i started. i still get the danger lecture everytime i talk to them. my brother destroyed his knee riding, my dad broke his neck riding and i screwed my face up riding.. real safe. real safe

many beers in america. molson gold, moslon canadian, kokoonee and all the rest all taste like that king of beer budwiser. yuck! if oyu want i send you a sixer of the goods. bro!

tom, if you are referring to darwin's statment of survival of the fittest. he did not say that, he only elborateded on herbert spencer's theory. as far as snowmobiles violating the wilderness. they do in a big way. i used to race 2 stroke dirt bikes in the woods. a two stroke motor only burns about 60-70% of the pre-mixed fuel. that allows for 40-30% more pollutents into the enviroment. all two strokes do this. snowmobiles, jet skis amd dirt bikes. i don't know where you snomobile, but i had an almost fist-ta-cuffs with some of your brethern this past winter. i was skiing up a road and homeboys buzzed me. they told me that i was on their road. something about sno-park pass. me being a passive aggressive told ole' boy to go do something to his mother. let me tell you i thought he was going to have a stroke, so i turned my boards and made some turns. i have also seen two stroke oil contaniers laying a roadside drainage ditch leading into the cle elum river. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm i don't think hikers left this. i also would have to say that snow-might cover the trash up. either way. lose the tude' dude. too bad about that guy dying though. snowmobiler or not.

DAN TOOTH AND CLAW IS ONLY PARTIALLY A CLIP UP ROUTE

good, now that my church has been accosted i will start blowing up little si. whillans you want to help? concord or s. early either way i am appauled. especially if it is rap bolted.

DONT WORRY AMERICANS A POSSE OF MEAN SPIRITED HARD DRINKIN' AMERICAN GOOD OLE' BOYS WILL KEEP THE CRAGS SAFE. REMEMBER DRU EIGHT MILE CAMPGROUND IS RIGHT PAST THE 36 METER OUTHOUSES I KNOW YOU NEEDED THE CONVERSION. YOU MIGHT WANT TO BRING YOUR OWN BEER TO THE STATES. WE DON'T DRINK THAT PISS COLORED SISSY STUFF WITH CLAMATO JUICE YOU GUYS DO. I'M SURE THE ONLY QUEEN YOU GUYS WILL BE SINGIN' ABOUT IS BRYAN ADAMS. SEE YOU THERE [This message has been edited by erik (edited 04-12-2001).]

john i have done it twice. if oyu have questions about him poopin out i would say no. once in the coulior you are in it to win it. the route i personally think is not that demanding physically, though for someone who is new it might be. he might be in good physical shape but can he hadle it mentaly that is what i would ask myself. opinion would be to keep him on the south side. p.s. i am taking a gummer up there as well in may, maybe we should combine forces. safer eh!?

yossarian, the bolt ladders have been replaced with 3/8" stainless hardware. everyone can thank the washington mountain alliance for the hardware (sorry darryl i got it right now) [This message has been edited by erik (edited 04-17-2001).]

sticks and stones may break my bones but some internet jargon will never hurt me! okay kids time for a nap. not sure how old eveyone is, but come on guys we sound like abunch of 6th grade girls all heated up over the fact suzy has called you stupid. we all know suzy is inbred, just drop it. p.s. i don't flame people i just like to make myself laugh.