Drastically changed They aren't that stiff, they aren't that fat, and they are damn fun out back of beyond. At least mine are. iain's right they are made by atomic - but less of the good bits than the rest of the atomic line. They ain't no Big Daddy. I had Freerides on the 'bows, now dynafits, and ski them with Lasers. The 187cm are a bit too much ski for the boot at high speed but still fun.