AlpineK

I'm not sure what to say about Bellevue. I grew up there, but I got the hell out of dodge when I turned 18. Personally I like Seattle a lot more than Bellevue, but there are some nice parks in Bellevue. The Arboretum in Bellevue is pretty cool; it doesn't hurt that I did a bunch of work on the trees in that and other parks. I guess I'd say that Seattle has more stuff going on; more music, and better cheap restaurants. That's why I like it, but I've still got a few friends that I like (including my parents) that live in Bellevue.

2 days of hiking in Der Leavenworth. Most importantly I went to a wedding just north of Der. It was the largest gathering of Tippy Turtles that's happened in years. There were some other cool folks there too.

I was wondering about that, you looked so tall and proud out there. Almost everyone winds up doing some level of grovel on that pitch. You do know that people used to spend two nights on that route? Splendid job. Way to go I too crawled across that ledge. I'm glad to hear that even now I'm not the only person who had problems with that traverse. I've done a number of those climbs you guys just did, but I sure as hell didn't do it in one trip. :tup:

All your questions can be answered by Chef Chop Chop Questions on bolting that is.

La Grave. :tup: If you need a big city Grenoble is right there. Kick ass skiing, Excellent climbing in France's largest national park. You're only a couple hours from Chamonix for more of the same. The place is cheaper and more low life (in a good way) than Chamonix. There's also good ice climbing there.

I like the story better leaving in the part about being set free because you ate too many twinkies

In general terms: I grew up trad climbing and that is what gives climbing the biggest thrill for me. I've also done a large number of crazy routes. However I have done quite a number of sport routes, and while I would never call for more sport routes to get put up, they are fun. Being about one year out from a bad injury that involved a fall onto a hard surface I have a different perspective about things. I've been trying to keep things safe while getting back into climbing. From my perspective sport routes provide a safe way to get back into things. I'm not back to leading, but just unclipping quick-draws is a lot easier than unclipping and cleaning real pro. From my view sporto routes provide an entry route into climbing, but it's our job to tell new climbers, "You ain't a real climber tell you can climb stuff that has more than just bolts for pro."

I think that's right. Remember if you want to kill a few folks eat a bunch of Twinkies before you do. Then you're home free even if you do get caught.

Not quite. On our way out we spent a night at one of the crappy Chinese hotels and got in big trouble when we were trying to leave in the morning. We had stolen some booze from the kitchen and were using furniture at the place as drums for our big blow out party. We managed to talk them into letting us leave, which beats the hell out of Chinese run Tibetan jail.

Not quite. They were all hopped up on tobacco.

An excellent question.

While I like a good martini if I had to pick my favorite straight booze it's kind of a toss up between good Scotch and good tequila. sipping not chugging. Those Scots and Mexicans

When I was there there were a bunch of other groups on the mountain. Nobody had a MLU. Those Frogs sure were good at smoking cigarettes at altitude though.

Judging by the collection of trash I saw on the north side Everest is not a wilderness area.

If you want the classics Robert Fripp is your man Wiki web site I saw KC in Seattle in the early 80s at a small club

I went on a tour of the salmon hatchery in Issaquah when I was in grade school. Nothing that crazy happened. It only stands out in my memory because back then Issaquah was still a small hick town and miles from the yuppie suburban monster it's become. Hell back then if you wanted to go fly a glider Issaquah was the spot.

I've pulled off the highway a couple times to check out the Black Canyon. That place is crazy and by all accounts that pegmatite is total sketch...you've gotta break up the good climbing now and then.

All those posts with -1 replies. I'm not sure I've ever been to the end of Spray.

My voting was not based on actual interest in the route, but rather on what would annoy Kevbone the most. Hey Kevbone :ass: :ass: :ass: :ass: :fahq: :fahq:

That's a great game.

I would just like to say that I can't even make it through all the posting. I grew up trad climbing, and trad climbing is what gives me the most pride in having done. That being said I've done a number of sport climbs that were fun, but if somebody ask me to come up with a list of my favorite climbs the sporty ones would be very low on the list. If somebody wants to give IB the chop then go right ahead. If it doesn't get chopped then someday I may climb it, but I don't care either way.

I like martinis Gin not vodka, and only a splash of vermouth :tup: with an onion not a olive :tup:

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Here's a little history lesson. Local pigs make grade

Bolts make excellent hangers for pigs heads. An activity that's approved by the Society of Crack Greasers.