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crackbolter, lots of cool new stuff, yous included. Colin Haley and Gordy Skoog are collecting information for Harlin and the AAJ. You should send them something.

let's here it for fat guy gear

I believe he started down at the Eightmile Campground on the Icicle and walked the 3-4 miles of road to the trailhead.

choss we have. Need that good BC Granite!

pictures please

Dru, Don't give away any secrets to the Cascade Ninja speed climbers. Homathko and.....

one 50m rope Rod, have fun, nice climb.

I was reading your comments on the Eolo harness. If you want we can swap you for a smaller size. Maybe we can get you to write a trip/gear report for our website. Jim

I had some fun on this climb a few years ago. I remember the climbing was straight forward but loose until we came to a steep step that is mentioned in the Beckey description. Difficult to tell from below how difficult the climbing is, or about the pro. We decided to climb left of the ridge until we were able to get back on to the crest. This took us a few pitches, some of which included a couple pieces of aid and some sweat. Details are fuzzy however. We were a party of 3, but I can't remember what length rope we had. I'm thinking that our pitches were short. Maybe Bob Davis will remember more? Enjoy the area.

Metallica's cover of Anti Nowhere Leagues "So What". Sonic's cover of "Louie Louie", forget the origanal artist but he good too.

anything off the Stafford Cr. Road in the Teannaway. You could make a summit bivy. snow on the north slopes.

I would think since the rope is dynamic, it's the belay device's job to not be dynamic. the munter is very good btw. For situations near the belay where there is less rope stretch (dynamic), that the belayer being lifted up will provide a dynamic component.

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because he has a large bone?

it could be mediocre and still be very good. how does it compare to Condorphamine?

what time will you kids be at cooper's?

Tim, I think Ladder Creek will take you there. Behind the Newhalem gererators.

If you were unhappy with the climbing on the second half of liberty crack, you probably won't love the north face routes on liberty bell. I'm not saying they're not fun. The NW face has some very good rock, shorter but good.

I've heard some good things about the south face of Kangaroo. Supposed to be good rock and steep. Also there is lots of good looking rock between the east butt. and the south arete of SEWS.

sounds like you missed the direct too

or maybe it helps encourage a larger pool of potential partners.......

MattP, I'm not saying the books don't have an effect, but much of my interest in the climb comes from the excellent climbing and maybe the short approach too. My one regret so far is that I haven't climbed the direct finish (Bertulis). I hear from Brian B. that it's sweet. Maybe it will be in condition this weekend?

I would like to offer another opinion from MattP about Liberty Crack. I've climbed it 12 times and think the rock quality and the quality of climbing is high on the second half. Fun climbing.

TLG is doing well, but pms doesn’t have work for her now. Business is slow here, I think corporate America is taking over. Please support the small shops when you can. Maybe we don’t stock and sell as much merchandise as rei, but as long as we can pay the bills then we’re happy. We get to meet some cool people and are always well equipped when we get to play. For now bd is banned here, but cc is encouraged.

Catbird, "Monk's Music" is also nice.