Alex

Paul, even Cle Elum is a long drive for an after-work beer! Alex

[ 10-15-2002, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Alex ]

JayB, that is indeed an early (and God, how early!) draft that we posted here on cc.com to generate some buzz. But to be honest, that draft doesnt do our current work justice. Jason was not kidding when he said it would take a long time (and be a little pointless) to list an index of routes here: we have over 230 routes! The guide is going to be great. Everytime I look at the awesome contributions in pictures, beta, and most importantly climbing accomplishments that we have from many local-yet-low-key ice climbers, I get pumped to gear up and go ice climbing! We hope you will too, Alex

Wierd. I'll be in the Adirondacks this weekend. We'll also be climbing moderates. No crowds in the 'Daks.

I sent it! From L to R: To The Top, Allison (not really visible in this pic), COL Van Spanker, Figure Eight?, erden, Dave Parker sitting very godfatherlike at the head of the table, Wayne waving, AlpineK, Dave Shudt, jon Also present but not in pic, hikerwa, mattp, v, 009?, Beck, ... good times, Alex [ 10-08-2002, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: Alex ]

[ 10-08-2002, 06:02 PM: Message edited by: Alex ]

quote: Originally posted by allison: Alex, does that mean you'll be joining us tonight? I want to hear all about last weekend! And TLG, bring those thigh-highs with the sticky rubber, could come in handy for a little downtown buildering! believe it or not (I know its hard to believe) I actually try to make this pretty regularly, but Tues are tough, work/life issues have cropped up last x number of times I've tried to come down there. BUT NOT TONIGHT! Ooooooooohhhhhhh yyeeeeeaaaahhhhhh....

lets not

egggselent!

I did it earlier this year with dps and mvs. I would be very surprised if the upper schrund was passable at all without 1) climbing yuck rock to one side (this as resulted in the near-death of at least one climber in the recent past) or 2) rapping into the schrund and climbing up the opposing wall the approach is only 4 hours max from the car, though, so go in and check it out. It is a really stellar area to be in, regardless of whether you climb or not. Plus, by now I bet most of the bugs are dead, making it all the more pleasant boulder hopping. Alex

if you are talking about Kangaroo Temple, near the Liberty Bell massif, you basically hike up to Kangaroo Pass from the hairpin turn on highway 20, and you cant miss it to the Southeast of the pass. Its a fairly basic level traverse along some climbers paths n such to get over there. Beckey's red has an good picture of it, the S face I blieve, which is essentially the view you are greeted with from the pass. Alex

I used the GiGi about a year before going to the reverso. I like the reverso and wouldnt go back. Alex

so...where is it gonna be?

I have a Fuji FinePix 2800 with 6x optical zoom and 128mb card. It also takes "movies" with sound. It is fairly compact and light and I take it climbing. It has macro, the zoom is nice, it takes 4AAs. I recommend this camera, but you wont need the 128 MB card, 64 would be fine. You can see some of the photos (reduced) it takes here: http://www.mountainwerks.org/alexk/climb/TRIceCliff.htm

nice info God its hard to believe a #1 head's wire is supposed to hold almost 500 pounds! Guess I should stop sketchin' on bomber nuts when aiding huh?

Mr CHiPs I am only 13, so I am not even in high skool yet

Mr CHiPs I am only 13, so I am not even in high skool yet

i think sc never actually offered a definitive deffinition of what it was...I mean, everyone knows what and are. shit! Thats it! It doesnt have its own emoticon!!!

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: ...Mickey Rooney, another little guy who is not retarded... are you sure about that? I disagree!

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: ...Mickey Rooney, another little guy who is not retarded... are you sure about that? I disagree!

"I take your point, and I still disagree." My points were: * "Everyone has the right to use this site as they see fit, without interferece" * "Anyone who wants this site to be something that it isnt, or wont be with current moderation policies, should go elsewhere" and you disagree? Perhaps there is no relavence left on this bord for you and yours, but I enjoy it tramendously. I never said it had no relevance to me, if it didnt why would I be debating with you? I enjoy this board alot, and get alot out of it. I am glad you do. That makes 2 of us. What I said is it has no relevance as a platform for the local climbing community (and it doesnt) and it doesnt serve as a real vehicle for information (it doesnt). Had it gone down a different road in the beginning, 2 years ago, then it might have. Who knows? I think you and I are talking about 2 different things, without realizing it, and just dont understand that yet. Hopefully we'll meet someday and we can talk about it all. people could always be nicer... they could also be less pompus. pompous huh? cool, I'll add that to my list! Hey 'K, we finally skiing this year? I promise I wont ridicule your Randonee (french for "can't tele") setup

"I take your point, and I still disagree." My points were: * "Everyone has the right to use this site as they see fit, without interferece" * "Anyone who wants this site to be something that it isnt, or wont be with current moderation policies, should go elsewhere" and you disagree? Perhaps there is no relavence left on this bord for you and yours, but I enjoy it tramendously. I never said it had no relevance to me, if it didnt why would I be debating with you? I enjoy this board alot, and get alot out of it. I am glad you do. That makes 2 of us. What I said is it has no relevance as a platform for the local climbing community (and it doesnt) and it doesnt serve as a real vehicle for information (it doesnt). Had it gone down a different road in the beginning, 2 years ago, then it might have. Who knows? I think you and I are talking about 2 different things, without realizing it, and just dont understand that yet. Hopefully we'll meet someday and we can talk about it all. people could always be nicer... they could also be less pompus. pompous huh? cool, I'll add that to my list! Hey 'K, we finally skiing this year? I promise I wont ridicule your Randonee (french for "can't tele") setup

alex... now your comment about repsect for a thread.....a thread is like a micocosim of a conversation....when was the last time you had a conversdation with a few people and it did not turn another direction or onto another topic????? certainly the hate and stupid crass jokes some use need to stop, but when that will happen and who will make it happen is anyones...guess erik, I for one have always appreciated the thought you put into your posts when there is actually thinking to be done. I appreciate your honesty and ability to see another person's point of view, and that became apparent to me pretty much that first couple weeks with "Spray Detracts From this Site" when both you and Dru had good arguments and insightful things to say, along with many other people. But I disagree that all threads are conversation. Sure if the banter is about Formula 1 vs Stock Car racing, who cares? But all too often someone posts a trip report, the next thing you know there are twenty posts with one or two poeple calling each other names, polluting what otherwise is a good read. Often times I've heard the argument "if you dont like it, dont read it" but unfortuneatly I dont buy it since I naturatlly have to read it to even know if I like it or not. I have a suggestion for jon and tim. An author of a thread should be able to nuke it if they feel its going sour. Up until now you and me and other moderators are left to clean up the sheit when it actually happens ("attitude" is a great example). Why not let authors police their own threads? Just a thought. Alex

alex... now your comment about repsect for a thread.....a thread is like a micocosim of a conversation....when was the last time you had a conversdation with a few people and it did not turn another direction or onto another topic????? certainly the hate and stupid crass jokes some use need to stop, but when that will happen and who will make it happen is anyones...guess erik, I for one have always appreciated the thought you put into your posts when there is actually thinking to be done. I appreciate your honesty and ability to see another person's point of view, and that became apparent to me pretty much that first couple weeks with "Spray Detracts From this Site" when both you and Dru had good arguments and insightful things to say, along with many other people. But I disagree that all threads are conversation. Sure if the banter is about Formula 1 vs Stock Car racing, who cares? But all too often someone posts a trip report, the next thing you know there are twenty posts with one or two poeple calling each other names, polluting what otherwise is a good read. Often times I've heard the argument "if you dont like it, dont read it" but unfortuneatly I dont buy it since I naturatlly have to read it to even know if I like it or not. I have a suggestion for jon and tim. An author of a thread should be able to nuke it if they feel its going sour. Up until now you and me and other moderators are left to clean up the sheit when it actually happens ("attitude" is a great example). Why not let authors police their own threads? Just a thought. Alex

yeah I agree with others: late Feb into the first 2 weeks of march. The days are much longer, allowing you to go for bigger routes, the temps are cold but not too much below freezing, making for pleasant climbing conditions and plastic ice, and the crowds associated with vacation periods (christmas and new years) might not be so noticable. that said I go in January every year and its very nice, too. Alex