kevino

i thought your kids were younger? glad to see you getting lots of vacation in.

it'll probably just make him more red.

party on dude. rumor has it, a certain friend who works at a certain local brewery may show up with keg...

school doesn't start until the 24th. i'm living this summer to the MAX.

i like how i made this list. see response in other thread. i'll be sure to have a beer for you after i climb dragontail next week. sucka

sobo. climbed at index today and finished it off with a pale ale from deschutes. and that was my first time at index, BLOODY AMAZING.

yeah...matt cook and i ran up this monday evening. stupid cold for august. and mountainstyle, i was talking about next weekend - got the last weekend of my nursing class this weekend.

I like sun: Sounds a lot like what a past friend/physical therapist told me. I have had my feet looked at and have no supination or pronation. And I have had my gait analyzed, the only "deformity" was that my hip dropped at certain points in my stride. Which of course, are due to muscle imbalances, and as you said, when the muscles get fatigued my biomechanics go to shit. However, after taking seven months off from running, I returned to running maybe 3-5 days a week between 20-60 minutes, way less than my normal 50-60 mpw, and the pain returned within one or two weeks...Which is when I went a saw another doctor and ruled everything out and agreed, my tibial tuberosity is def. inflammed, but what exactly is causing it...he was unsure. And said the usual, well do your PT exercises and don't run as much. I've since stopped running for my college and only run 2-4 days a week when I feel like it and when there is no pain. The pain can return during periods of long walking downhill (ie descending from a mtn climb), but not always.

whats wrong with the trail up from colchuck? I made it up from the stuart lk TH to the summit of little annapurna in 3:45 hours and from there it really is all down hill. And after doing it both ways, I would say going in from stuart lk TH is better.

so thats what happened to me! So since you guys know knees soooooooo well please tell me why my tibial tuberosity is inflammed? No its not osgood schlaughters. No its not patella tendonitis. And yes I have good cartidlidge and no bone fx or weaknesses. PT exercises only do good for about 4-6 months before the injury comes back and yes, I continued doing them.

If this weekend doesn't work out for you, I'd be interested in next weekend. Just throwing it out there.

that thing climbs slower than my ex-girlfriend and it doesn't give you any action.

Just curious. I don't really remember having any good/if any at all speakers like that in HS. However in college some of the memorable classes are when you have speakers come to your class and talk about their first hand experiences with you. Good for you.

then they'll get on here and complain about people toproping it and hogging it.

Teacher Ivan, What do you teach and what age?

Climber killed when 'hunter' thought it was a bear is that too soon?

Well, this happened to me at the Tooth last May. Yes, it is a popular place - expect crowds. But we ran into a group of 10 from WAC - 2 leaders and 8 newbs. The "leaders" had topped out "pitch" one and were throwing the rope down to each of the 8 followers one by one. We chatted with the newbs to find out the situation, waited a little, and then ASKED if we could jump in between climbers and move past them. They were not thrilled about the request but acquiesced. We quickly climbed past them. I think they should have offered first, but I'm not about to sit and stew in silence if they don't. Later they hogged up the rap stations and would NOT let us go by. One of our guys gave them an earfull for that. I would agree in regards to the rap station. Thats just dumb. And I think what you did was exactly right, talk to them and find out whats going on and ask. And my experience is different because it was in leavenworth and I was soloing easy stuff albeit no one was climbing the cracks I was in, just ropes were there. I have yet to run into a group like that in the alpine. All in all, doing what you did is exactly what I was trying to get at, even if I had a round about way of doing it. Hats off to you sir - and the guy that gave them an earful. But one good thing about the mounties, is they replace old webbing with brand new stuff. I went and climbed ingalls monday evening just after a mountie group had left and a bunch of the rap stations were brand new.

I did not call you stupid, rather your comment. Big difference. And I was responding to NafeF as well, where he used the words majority and everyone interchangably, not the 'vocal minority.' I don't know, I was frustrated that my age group was called out, when as you pointed out other groups hog routes as well. Then no communication was had, therefore causing judgements. I'll agree, some people will do whatever they want because they are no rules... For the record, I hate it when groups claim crags or routes, however in my experience they have offered to move stuff out of the way. I guess this is why I'm mostly alpine climbing and only at crags on weekdays or shitty weather.

Did you guys just read what you want to read? Most people, including myself, said communication would have solved this problem. Some people, however, are "blasting" the author for saying that leading is the only way to rock climb and that people who lead climb are better than those who do not. All of which are stupid assumptions to make since he did not talk to anyone. wtf...the CC.com consistency is being continued by you 5K by not reading/comprehending the thread and making stupid statements at the end. I mean sure kevbone and one or two others said "whoever gets their first" but honestly - everyone?

I got it I got it: "Tool Festival" but then you'll have a bunch of scary looking dudes w/ tatoos showing up hmm...but i bet marcus will be there either way...

that band name sounds really familiar - best of luck. are they from seattle/uw?

Last year it was as cross country meet - so I quit that. This year I have mountain rescue training - what gives? If Sobo reads this, can this count as fall rigging? They're going to be ropes in use?

all rock and dirt.

So to sum it up: Old guy needs to COMMUNICATE instead of blamming young people for ruining climbing. OR go alpine climbing or go in less popular areas.

This was found just south of Ingalls Lake. If this is yours please let me know so I can reunite it promptly with its knife and fork. For size refernce: