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You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. You know... morons.

"One small strep for man..." I'd like to know what's been happening in the Electric Sector.

How's Cain doing in Iowa?

Here ya go, Bone. It's even in a reputable magazine: Piece about Pauls racist newsletters in the Atlantic It's fine to worship a candidate (naive, but do what ya need to), but it helps to know at least a little about them, too. The 'racist remark' story is everywhere right now. Even Bubble Boy knows about it. Try reading a newspaper, any newspaper, sometime.

Certainly one of the most pressing issues of our time...

I can't believe I couldn't nail Ivan's helmet from only 10 feet up...damn thing even has a bulls eye on it. Oh well, Dear Old Dad always said I threw like a girl...an insult to girls everywhere.

If all goes well The Viagra should be christened by the end of this week. Keep your tip up, Bob! Help is on the way....

Bump. Got a response from NWHikers. How about CC? This could be the greatest winter aid climbing invention of all time! AND YOU COULD BE PART OF IT.

Use FOX as your source and you've already lost the debate. Might as well cite Herman Cain's website to support your opinions on what's wrong with women in America. And yes, I read the FOX headlines every damn day...for entertainment only, of course. It's the only 'news' channel that covers the disturbing trend of 9 year olds and retards being expelled from school for sexual harassment. Sadly, I'm not even making that up. These stories began to appear immediately after the Cain harassment scandal broke LOL.

Edamame, DOOD.

BTW I've accumulated 10 almost empty fuel canisters...

It could blow up and rain rocky death upon the pate of your poor belayer...just not on command.

Breaking the law and using the law to disenfranchise certain voters to rig elections in favor of one party over another are two completely different phenomena that have nothing to do with each other. The first is democracy working as it should (having the laws to begin with, then punishing the violators), the second is a concerted effort to break democracy entirely. An unprincipled person might not be able to discern the difference. A principled one would never attempt to downplay the wrongness of the latter by citing an instance of the former.

Anyone have a 10'+ x 3/8" diameter folding/shock cord pole from a destroyed tent they'd like to get rid of for a climbing related science project?

Stunning. Absolutely stunning.

Was it this line?

Does anyone know where I can get rock shoes with quick release front points? Thanks to Darrington's FAer's for creating a relatively unsung jewel of an area over the last several decades. If it were in the Mojave, it would be world famous. Fortunately, our weather and vegetation keep it scruffy enough to appeal to primarily local tastes. There's a substantial and relatively quiet group of more occasional visitors who who really appreciate all the hard work and skill that's been put into the area by those who know and love it best.

so...ten dollah? ...says that I502 will pass, either by the WA legislature or voters. Winnings due when victory/failure is confirmed by the Secretary of State.

Spare me the lecture.

We're done on that.

I'd respect the opinion that 'The Nader Effect' was worth 8 years of Bush because of the way it changed the national debate. I do not respect denial of simple numerical outcomes and their basic causes that are clearly documented by the public record.

More demonizing of Nader by the usual suspects. Gore won. It was a judicial coup based on electoral fraud (cue Catherine Harris and the disenfranchising of 10k's of voters). Democrats caved in and instantly proved that Nader was right about them. I'm not gonna get into the usual tit for tat about the obvious: Had Nader not skimmed two out of every three of his votes (public record and indesputable, sorry) from Gore rather than Bush, the SCOTUS thing would never have happened because there would have been no question as to who won the election. You've got KKK for that kind of bickering. Let's fast forward to today's reality, no?

You're still operating in 'charismatic leader' mode. Given the massive dysfunction of the federal government, it seems like reform is going to have to happen from the ground up - local and state level first. That's a continual process that never ends, actually. Reform does not require a messiah. Look at the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. They're winning elections like crazy...without a charismatic leader. Why? Thousands of nameless, faceless, but nonetheless effective organizers. You don't wait for a president to 'come around'...you show them the way. Why is DOMA and DADT dead now? Because Obama thought it was a great idea? No. Because the president's administration was beaten in court by it's citizens. We showed them the way forward. Politicos at the local and state level are no different. They are mired in administrative minutiae and despair, its up to focused citizens to show them the way foward, too. Substantive change takes decades. Bummer, but that's the nature of human affairs. For ex: Ending the War on Drugs will take decades. It takes a group of focused citizens to take the first concrete step down that long road.

Yes, by every analysis I've read, Nader's run unquestionably caused Bush to be elected where he otherwise would not have been. Not an outcome I'd be proud of, personally.

It only goes on the ballot IF the legislature doesn't pass it first. THAT will probably more difficult than getting voters to go for it...but it's also a lot less expensive.