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I don't know what all the fucking whining is about. "whaa whaaa, cc.com culture is so shitty..." Boo fucking hoo. If you're looking for culture on a fucking climbing website than you need to stop jerking off so much to porn and start making real friends. Go out and have some crazy sex, or something. There are some great restaurants in town. Want a recommendation? I think there's nothing wrong with cc. It's like one giant disfunctional family. I come from a disfunctional family, maybe that's why I like it. I've met tons of great partners here, and got lots of great beta and free medical advice, plus I get a lot of laughs. This place has made me a better climber. Sure, spray is crude and infantile. I hope it never changes. BTW, I hate you all.

FAIL Please try again bill.

but I want money

do I need bed peace before hair peace, or is it the other way around?

Recently I've gotten myself in a situation in which someone who was once close to me has done and continues to do so many hurtful things to me and my children that I find it hard not to hate them. I was raised thinking that hatred is bad (mmm kay?), so it's sort of a natural reaction for me to try not to. But it's hard, when these feelings feel so natural. I've never really felt like this before about someone, so it's kind of new to me. Couple of questions: What's so bad about hating someone, anyway? Why should I be trying so hard not to? Isn't it a natural emotion just like everything else? Is it even possible to not feel an emotion that you're feeling? It's all just chemicals, anyway. And, what in the world do you do to not hate someone? Trying to not hate someone is like trying to not love someone.

Electrolites (vitamins and minerals) have nothing to do with Ph (acidity) dumbass. Gee, we're a bunch of chemistry nuts on here, aren't we? Electrolytes (with a 'y') are not "vitamins and minerals" -- they are usually solutions of acids, bases or salts. Obviously, acids and bases have everything to do with pH (which is not "acidity"), and I don't have to tell you how salts are generated, do I? (hint: it has to do with acids and bases.) In addition to neutral salts, there are also acid and basic salts, you know (which are probably not in my sports drink!) I'm sure CBS can take it from here.

I'm still waiting for my check

can we get back to discussing bolts vs. trad? We're so close to reaching closure, I think we could settle it once and for all with only a few more pages.

If there is a hell, it must be getting awful crowded down there.

nice trip. That's one of my favorite routes. When I did it, we also hiked out at night, in the dark, wearing crampons for traction in the wet heather. I feel your pain.

Nice I've heard that's a fun traverse. How was the rock over on that side? The same weird green glass shit? Too bad about the weather, at least you got out though. I spent the day eating junk food

Sounds like it's a good time to go get drunk

right on, lukic Good weather for it

Sounds like a time. It was nice to meet you on the trail. We were thinking about you guys when the hail came, while eating sausages and drinking beer.

We just did SEWS, approaching from the hairpin turn. Approach was about 50% snow covered -- snow started about half-way up. It is starting to moat out around the top near the col and the usual moating around boulders. There was a bit of snow getting to the base of the route, but it could have been avoided with some scrambling on ledges up above. Approaching from Blue Lake TH looks to have about the same amount of coverage. The snow was pretty soft (partner was in approach shoes), but I was glad to have an axe. But, a couple of trekking poles would probably have been fine, too.

wasn't he friends with the guy who started the El Salvador Death Squads? Chele, AKA "The Blowtorch"?

you're just jealous of my long shaft. I get that alot.

scheissami -- dude, thanks for the rad trip! When are we getting out again? But then where would I keep the beer?

Trip: South Early Winters Spire - Southwest Buttress Date: 7/2/2008 Trip Report: After a relaxing morning sleeping in, Scheissami and I left the hairpin and made our way up the scree and snow to the col below SEWS. Rather than traversing over from the huge chockstone to the base of the route, we opted to start at the split-top larch a pitch or so under the 5.8-ish crack pitch obvious from the ground. Scheissami and I swapped leads, with him starting out and leading up and over a small overhang to the next ledge, where I took over and brought us up easy terrain to the base of the 5.8 wide crack (my favorite pitch on the route), which fell to Scheissami. He led it in good style, and I took the next, easy double cracks in the dihedral. I was extremely relieved when the next slab pitch fell to him, and before we knew it we were at the base of the bear-hug cracks. The bear-hug pitch fell to me, and I led up, scoping out the off-width cracks above me. Now, I kind of like off-width, but a #3 and #4 camalot are NOT sufficient to protect this pitch. You can get a #3 or a #4 in around your feet, but the crack widens up quite a bit above that. We had been planning on sliding the #4 up with us on a long sling, but it was obvious to me that once I moved a couple feet higher, the #4 would be too small. I didn't like my odds, so I put the 3 and 4 in at my feet and had Scheissami lower me off. He led the pitch with the #3 at his feet, and was able to make a total bullshit placement with the #4 a bit higher up. The climbing was not hard, but it certainly would require a #5 to protect the ledge-fall. Thanks, dude! As a pennance, I took the next slab pitch. I clipped the bullshit bolt (did that thing come from a car?) and was able to get an alien in at my feet before sketching my way up the unprotectable slab arete. I do NOT like climbing slab, and I'm a bit ashamed to say that I shrieked a little bit on my way up. I didn't know my voice could get that high. But, I stuck it out. Luckily there was nobody else around, and Scheissami promised me that he would destroy the video. We rapped down into the gully between the "rabbit ears" and I was racking up for the easy crack on the summit pitch when we felt the first drop of rain. The thunder hit us at the summit. Downclimbing to the first rap station on the south arete, the hail and wind started. The hail was pretty large, and sounded like marbles hitting my helmet. The wind was blowing our ropes sideways, and the thunder and lightening kept getting closer and closer. While coiling the rope over my nylon-clad shoulders, I could feel hair standing up due to static build-up. I did what anybody else would do: I grabbed my partner's rack to ground myself. About half-way down, the wind and thunder started to pass, and we were greeted by a brilliant double rainbow above us, over the hairpin. Nice touch. The IPA at the car never tasted better. Gear Notes: Salami Bring a big piece for the bear-hug pitch

Burned and spurned? Scheissami is supposed to post pictures, but I think he's been too busy drinking beer and being Austrian.

What's wrong with that? I'd certainly hope he refines his policy after receiving data that will surely only be available to him as president. But apparently republicans will look for any excuse to belittle him. If he says a, they're mad he didn't say b. If he says b, they say, "hey, what about a?" Apparently, Obama needs to speak more clearly and slowly so that republicans can understand him.

I've had my whisperlite since I was 10 or so, and it's been running strong ever since (like, 19 years). Other than regular cleanings, I've never had to repair or replace anything. I ended up replacing the fuel pump last fall, but not really out of neccessity....

Of course not, it doesn't have room for a gunrack, or a dog. Where would you put the "vote republican" bumper stickers? And there's no way you could have a ton of gravel dumped into the bed like in those F-150 commercials.

OH MY GOD! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! Good thing I still have the bomb-shelter I built during the Y2K scare.