Kat_Roslyn

Definitly a Northern Pacific rattlesnake, eyestripe and diamond shaped head. A gopher snake will sometimes rattle their tail in dry leaves and a cottonmouth will, but cottonmouths aren't in this area, though there are a lot of other types of cottonmounths in leavenworth. Rattlesnakes like to take in sun after eating to help digest.

Oly, You accomplished that because we were all praying for you! By the way, how many bible verses can you reciete?

Anyone from here going to be there next week like from Wednsday and then possibly the week after and after that?

Anyone want to go for a little ski today? Like in an hour or two?

Seasonally, the snakes go back when it get's colder, being an ectotherm they get most of their energy from heat, with no heat, they are not active to hunt and avoid predators. When catching rattlesnakes on a warm day they are very fiesty! Day to day, it really depends on the temp because they depend on heat to regulate body temp, so, naturally, in the more southern regions, rattlers tend to be more nocturnal. I don't know what hospitals have. What I know about past studies on the incidences of snake bites are that there was one from like 1950-59, in the PNW there was about 50 bites, and 5? were serious. At the same time, 10 people died from bee stings. I don't know about allergies.

I am fairly certain, thought it may have been a troglodite though. But through the process of elimination I located the sting and identified it. Definitely the venom travelled up the veins. I don't beleive trolodites or hodags are oceanic dwellers.

Oly, I am here for your herpetological inquiries. I believe it may be hard to get a bite in either left or right ventricals. But yes, I think you are right, it would be worse. My favorite place to look -for shnakes- or other herpes? I would not disclose that information in fear of someone trying to harm the snakes. Though in the event of hunting herpes, one of my favorite "road cruisin" it is common practice in the herpetological field to boost the amount of herpetonin in your blood to attract more herpes. So many dumb jokes, so little time. -kat

Oly, One can probably assess the location of the bite by process of elimination. First, look everywhere where the snake did not bite you, everywhere that is left over, that is where he or she bit you. Amount of venom? I don't know, Rattlers are Viperidea family so that means their fangs are highly derived and hollow where the venom is stored. They will just strike and stab, so they don't hold onto the flesh. The venom will degrad your skin tissue, so it probably doesn't matter if you wrap it. I am not into first aid though. Really, more people are hospitalized from bee stings. Drinking and Driving to hospitals. I was stung by a manta-ray a couple months ago, and could definitly tell there was venom running up my leg. So, I imagine one could feel the venom from a rattler. I definitly had many beers on the way to the hospital! Some tips. Rattle snake dens are South-south west facing, they have peculiar habits and tend to all go back to the same dens each year, early to mid April is when they all start coming out of torpor to hang out and bask in the sun. You can usually tell where Shnakes will be in the right size boulders of talus slopes, not too big, not too small. They really enjoy substrate temps around 35degrees C. And are faster around this time because it is warmer outside, in the morning they will be slow b/c it is so cool out. Okay, I could go on forever, have to get back to work. -Kat

I have been helping with catching and collecting data from rattlesnakes this spring around washington. There is one den in Vantage that we caught 17! & a whole lot more we didn't catch! I will try to get the photos of the buckets of snakes. It would be a shame if someone hurt these great animals, get to know them instead, they are so beautiful and we can learn so much about how well they've adapted to their environment. I really hope no one here is as ignorant to have tried to kill them. How often do you really hear about someone getting bit anyway? I've seen some not-so-suprising statistics about the incidence of snake bites and alcohol usage. If you get a snake bite, keep it immobilized and go to the hospital. Many bites don't release venom, but the shot will cost a hefty $2500. Max- The only Rattlesnake that lives around here in the Pacific Northwest is a "Northern Pacific Rattlesnake"- Crotalus viridus oreganus, The Diamondback- Crotalus atrox is southern, like Texas and Chihauhaun/Mojave desert.

images from Smithsonian mag

to change the topic...

screw city of rocks!

Ahhh man, it is NOT climbing season!!!! How can you climb when there is this!

Bobby, Did you happen to lose a green flip flop in Hook Drainage? Picked one up, looks worn to your style.

On Nash at Alpental this early morn. Big, glass, embedded in snow. e-mail me to describe colors and dimensions and I will send it to rightful owner!

a week and a half ago you could drive 7 miles to long's pass TH, snows' melted real fast though since.

serenading his girl and also talking with his family

and get a haircut hippy!

If you are sober it sucks. But in my opinion it can be nice on a hot summer day seeing that it is just a short little stroll from Marco's or the Brick. Go north for a block then hang N/NW at the Plum creek station, you can be swillin in the sun and slippin off of sandstone, then go back to the bar when you are done. Rock is pretty cool up by Lake CleElum & further by China Falls, I think Matt would know more though.

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Mike, who cares, no one is going to come anyway.

there once was a girl of a studious nature who's free time was consumed by equations of nomenclature this sketchy post for a partner is dubious no doubt & I know the coulee is chossy and there is no der saurkraut but you should do it anyway (I can't think of anything that rhymes with nomenclature)

I get out of school early 10-11am, does anyone want to head down to Vantage if its not raining? I am in Ellensburg. E-mail me. -Kat

Wow, that sounds so nice! Thank you for sharing! -Kat

My cousin & I did this the other weekend, what to do is find some friends that are renting a house and just show up to use their shower & kitchen & hottub & sleep in your truck. Hopefully they will be cool with your choice of "lifestyle", if'n so, they are some good friends, if they aren't so keen on the idea, buy them some PBR or some Canadian equivalent like Molson.