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nice folds! or is that a trick of topography?!

Actually, the park is used in the summer by non climbers...so really it should never close.

In yos.

Thanks for the info people! Crackers, IF you want to climb Sat or Sun after recovering from the tday feast friday, then send me a pm. cheers. btw, I do not intend on carrying icetools onto my flight...I typically avoid checking on luggage so ice climbing is not really an option... besides I'd rather climb frozen rocks in central park, nyc.

CKnight, you should dig up the old articles that praise the reopening of the PP and maybe there was an article that spoke of the collapse of trigger finger...for your reading intrest. One thing is for sure, that parking lot is HUGE and a waste of space. Also, it is not just climbers that like to use this park...hikers, dog walkers, picnicers and even geology classes use the facilities, trails and view or scramble on the rocks. The real question is why is it gated anyway? The only maintanence issues should be the lawn (unneeded) and restrooms.

So, reading this makes me say, mike had the first "real" redpoint.

Mt WA....hmmm, not sure about that area, isn't that where Hugh Herr had his epic? Another request: Anyone on this site live in those areas and want to climb some rocks Tday weekend??? I really don't want to just "boulder."

I am going that direction for Thanksgiving this year and am wondering about climbing during those prebitter cold days of the east coast... Anyone with the beta on what areas are climbable that time of year, please reply. Specifically curious about the gunks or new river gorge. Other suggestions for climbing around Boston area helpful. thanks very much.

so i take it the fedEx has been visited this morning? can you email me the tracking number if possible? Btw, I hope to get copies of the pics Mrs g took....

criminey, what is a true 11a?

Well, unfortunately, vegoose took hold of my soul and the only thing we were able to climb monday was the trail back to dark shadows to look for a stray pair of shades....after bumluck, we backtracked to the first pitch of Y2K and some other pos, climbing was quick and fairly mellow and fun. Thanks to LG for putting the rope up as I was barely able to get my harness on correctly. Had fun climbing with Zonk and raging at the vegoose!!! WSMFnP! S! Thanks for the suggestion chucK. Really we did not ever have a complete 10 hr day due to time change...season and overall vegas debauchery. I did suggest Epi but ole'LG did not want to climb that one again..... LG-next time, we will hopefully have the epic fun trip on what we shall only note as the "trail route".... thanks again to you and your family for the great visit.

thats what we thought.

russ says I am jerk!~

and your friends are bored with all suggestions 'cuz they live there. suggestions.... meds.... cruise the strip for hookers and druglords?? the granite family kicks serious ass! good people in place of bad news. U rumR and Cjz.

I did find it very comical when the restrooms were torched; one of the state park's reasons to close the PP seasonally... that is no budget to maintain facilities during off peak/latefall to early spring. Outhouses gone and still closed. (not sure if they replaced them yet..?...it was spring/closed when I hiked the trail last.)

Actually, I will interject one more response 'cuz its america, land of free speech and um yeah. Mark, why do you care so much? Yes I am from Leavenworth and yes I will be outspoken about bolting in a once very traditional area that has become sucked into the McDonaldizing BS that has embrassed rock climbing community of america and abroad. So, Foff mr Crazy JZ. PS. this is not a debate so do not tell me I have poor skills. this is a web forum where people type responses to threads as well as start there own AT all hours of the day so being a nit picky digger is IMHO futile. EditPSS: the Whaaa response was not directed to you unless your name is rudy or ruMr... Hmmmm.

just lock it like all the good threads have been subjected to....RIP thread!

it is due to the lahar threat.

Whhhaaa... moooom, rudy is a meanie.....!!! He is teasing me about hobs and nails and whaaaaaaaaaaa!

Yet the very same genius said and then he re-iterates this fact huh, so are all the posts during normal business hours? and why are you so fN critical of everything I say mark? Diggin kinda deep, yup. Maybe I actually rethought the fact that we assume it was fred and also we have no proof, unless he remembers or we ask his partner.... so I threw out the what makes you think qoute? and no rudy, hobnailed bolts and goldlines or hemp, I have not seen on ebay...if YOU see some buy some for me...and I ain't gonna pay you back.

'cuz its the BEST state in the union.

Well said Ross. Hey, whomever said it about questioning Fred's bolt location. What makes you think it was FB's lead and is the culprit who drilled the "sh!tty" bolts in the firstplace??? GRID BOLT THE WORLD! ooops, my outside typing voice got the better of me again.

Why can't are slogan be Washington (theres a reason its named after the first president.) Seattle. it rains....kinda.

Give me my poles back you thief!