Coldfinger

I kinda think the issue you all seem to want to ignore is the close high speed pass technique used on Tyson.g. Kinda rude and kinda dumb. If one rushed up on a pedestrian like that with a motorcycle, there is no doubt one is sending a message and might get into real trouble aka 'get off my lawn' or with the PD.

my shoulder, which is going to have to be repaired soon, begs to differ Sorry to hear that Minx, on the positive side, I have a good friend who had shoulder surgery at our age and it turned out just fine, just took a bit of time to recover. He does have the knack for letting an injury heal tho, one of the many fringe benefits of having a non-climbing life too. So just get it done! You'll be that closer to recovery. I've just seen A LOT more carnage in full contact sports, that's all, and there are full contact climbs out there.

In comparison to resort Alpine skiing, my two cents: I do have to add that one nice thing about climbing is that while there are objective hazards, accidents caused by climber ignorance, fatigue, confusion or mistake and also environmental risks (HACE, hypothermia, etc.), climbing has fewer risks than skiing when one looks at the kind of joint damage--knees in particular--typical in long time skiers. I don't know ANYONE who has blown out a knee climbing. I know quite a few people that have blown knees or are having a ton of trouble just getting around in their 50's from skiing. I would also add that climbing as a sport has far less risk than sports like football, hockey and rugby in terms of the risk of head injury (not to mention all sorts of bruises, tears, breaks, strains, pulls and sprains).

In a corn-hole?

+2 for classes also. We have all sorts of folks cratering in snow gullies here, they have great ice axes, but the knowledge is what failed them, and off they go in a chopper to the ICU.

I thought fat boys and tough guys were at opposite ends of the real man spectrum.

It's a REST day.

I think Minx meant that you should switch hands and post about that.

I think it is more that one knows that dogma is completely full of it.

OK, but you first.... Nahhh...I'm an athiest. I don't believe in anything. I reconsidered it once but i couldn't find any evidence to make me believe anything or something. I've got nothing to reconsider about anything. All right then, I'll give it a shot. I really like wearing condoms. Especially here in Wyoming. Yeehah!

Looks like the screw is sold pending $$.

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Nope.

While we got a few "risk" and "electronic device" threads going on... Just bought a Spot 2 from Best Buy for $79, thought I'd pass that along. As far as I can tell the big difference is color (grey not orange).

YOU CAN STUDY ONLINE........

Yeah, he can pass a national law requiring pre-abortion sonograms and then you take it home.

THE WINNER IS: UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX!!!!! Hard to argue with being able to be anywhere, no?

I can remember more than a few long drives to go ice climbing or winter mountaineering where the drive was definitely the tricky part.

Yeah quit kidding yourself, stick clipping IS dangerous!

Oh you mean like the right to live in a country free of violence?

Well, the Articles of Confederation didn't fare too well, maybe that is the ideal GOP model for regulating the economy. So I guess you can't hold it against folks if the experiment needs a tune up.

Or your eyesight is worse than it was 25 years ago. Madonna looked her age on the giant plasma HD. Andy rocked!

Not out of date, unless you prefer kickin' it in Homs homes. More of a challenge to uphold it as it governs day to day life. Or even understanding it for some folks. We're Americans......

Howdy, will ship free to lower 48, PayPal preferred, reasonable offers welcome. SOLD $90 for all 18. SOLD16 Mammut Moses wiregate carabiners, silver color, excellent cond., no falls. Retail $9, asking $5.50 each. SOLD SOLD2 Trango Superfly wiregate carabiners, orange color, new & unused condition. Retail $9, asking $5.50 each. SOLD

Hey at least Salewa's not releasing tons of toxic material as crampon coatings are worn off into the mountain environ..... Nevermind, that's BD, got em confused.