markd - ugh. guess I best not trust, or at least, not fall. I think joseph has been doing some work though. Also nervous on fresh squeeze - placing gear behind flakes, yarding on flakes, clipping pins, etc. Nothing like watching your friend leading devil's backbone though, as it spat out gear while he shakely hung on. yikes.
thanks for all the input, better safe than sorry, or at least, sorta safe.