JosephH

Please, tell me that's a troll! On what pitch? What, a 60m pitch with a crux in the final moves [carrying a heavy rack]?

Any updates?

Kevin's wife Maggie is clearly a pro-boner attorney and tough enough to take on any bureaucracy.

Justin, you're right, I know of one person who spent 13 months hooked to and dragging around an IV of antibiotics after letting the lymes thing get away from them. Even after it was all over they're still pretty much fucked.

Hope this turns out alright. Don't know the circumstances or details of this particular accident, but folks new to Rocky Butte should understand it's one of the most dangerous climbing areas imaginable (or at least that I've ever encountered) with respect to being unroped at the top of the cliffs. It's slick as snot up there even on a sunny days, if it has rained in recent days. Be exceedingly cautious when manuvering around the tops of those cliffs and under no circumstances should you underestimate the 'slip-and-slide' factor out there. Edit: Throw ratty extra ropes in your car for trips to RB and tie-in off a tree if you have even the slightest doubts about navigating near an edge out there to set up a TR.

The idea of a legitimate, non-sexual massage for money is about as common in most of the US as no-smoking blues club. It's somewhat understandable that someone could stumble into PDX and not realize the distinction might actually exist here. The rest of the US has been catching up with the West Coast in this regard over the past decade or two, but misunderstandings still probably happen all the time with traveling professionals.

A rope for that sounds like a real bother, much easier and way less hassle to just yoyo solo it. Then again it is a way burly 5.4+ pitch.

That's progress Kenny, real progress. Keep it up the good work.

And Jim is wrong - the chicks are not flying. You can go check (best view from the boat launch), but sorry, they won't be flying by tomorrow.

From the same guy who's eight total cc posts manage to include these gems: Given you don't care about Beacon and didn't get an answer from the other thread you'll forgive me for not wasting my breath here.

Perfect out, wish it were open.

No, but He said the chick was flapping it's winlots lot and given it was up on the crest doing it I would guess that probably puts it at 'soon' as in 7 - 14 days. Not being able to see into the nest and observe the chicks is a real downside of of the rock crest in front of the nest. It only allows observations of the chicks later in their development once they can climb up onto the crest and that can make it difficult to know how old or developed they are at that point beyond trying to judge their development via things like presence of down, size, color, etc as opposed to being able to see when they hatched. This is where a solar-powered, wifi webcam in the crack above the nest would be real handy. Maybe next winter, given the prices have been coming down.

Contrary to some reports of Beacon chicks fledging, after five hours of monitoring today, three of which had one of the chicks perched on the rock crest in front of the nest and parents feeding chicks down in it, David reports that the chick he got a long look at is still in significant enough down to be able to say its primary wing feathers have not developed enough for flight yet. I'll be going out for another session this weekend and a joint session with David next week and will report the results of both of those as they happen.

Oh, I know where you mean. It's on the original high traverse variation - I never go over there, so out of sight, out of mind. Not sure who considers that p3 rather than p2. Yeah, those old hangers are sometimes dubious which is a shame because by and large the split shank buttonheads they're on will still be around long after Beacon has turned to dust.

Huh? I can't think of any hangers on p2 or p3 of the Corner.

Just what kind of bastards would arm Afghans with shoulder-fired anti-aircraft weapons to use against a foreign army? And who could ever have predicted such an outlandish idea?

Get the 10.2 if you're going to do any significant amount of trad.

From one Joe to another I gotta say, I'm hoping you'll be holding to a higher standard of truth in advertising than that...

Especially when we do the spending and dying so the Chinese can do the digging... China's thirst for copper could hold key to Afghanistan's future Then again, it's all headed for Walmart anyway.

That should save the Chinese a few months of surveying...

The bugs and the cross-version / cross-browser issues are ridiculous! Who's running this joint anyway? It's definitely a lowest common denominator sort of deal and like death by a million paper cuts.

Ever put together a fairly complex website and try to get it to render and run the same across a majority of installed browswers? It's an ugly business under the best of circumstances.

Not at all, Hayek and his school simply felt that market signaling is about the future versus the past. That state 'morality' relative to any resulting social injustices and redistribution of wealth to address them was inappropriate and incompatible with what he saw as the way markets function. But Hayak - who spent no small amount of time wandering around epistemology, ethics, and politics underlying economic theory - in the end was an 'optimist' relative to beliefs like: So quite the contrary, he wasn't really theorizing about economies dominated by robber barons, felons of the Enron ilk, or an instance where the entire financial system might one day be gamed by means of pervasive fraud like we've just experienced. He assumed some baseline of 'honesty' in the market and probably implicitly understood the inherent greed underlying much of the conservative tract and the criminality perpetually roiling for escape that goes with it - i.e. they have little 'positive' to offer.

Well, from the sound of things here, this should make for an interesting weekend...

Well, these days we now have Internet forums so that retired climbers can still 'climb' on line. No need to get physical.