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There are just too many puns in that sentence for words.

Official Time keepers recorded the record ascent....

Good luck with the finding the sweet FA on the 5.13 jug-haul. oops, wrong thread

Lumberjack can also be substituted with canadian

So what would overhang, undercling, crimper, and of course rope management be defined as?

Must claim the belated No, but at the same time if an operation is only successful 50% of the time, then you'd can't guarantee it's going to be effective on everyone. It's not necessarily the doc's fault. If there's gross negligence that's a whole different matter. Unluckily medicine isn't an exact science, the outcomes aren't absolutely predictible. I don't know if Malpractice is the only issue with rising medical costs, but I know for a fact it's driving specialists out of some areas. (ob-gyn's in WV, I have an Aunt who's an Internist just left Cleveland for Hawaii, primarily because of malpractice rate increases.) I'm all for a cap. Complete covereage of medical expenses, lost wages, etc, but there should definitely be a "pain and suffering, and emotional damages" cap, those are the ones hitting OB-Gyn's so hard. After all, how do you place a value on a childs life? Not sure about punitive damages for gross negligence though....

In some area's of the Country OB-Gyn malpractice insurance rates have climbed so high due to how often they're sued that there aren't any OB-Gyn's there anymore (West Virginia I think?) So due to malpractice rates, the women there don't have access to specialists. Bad F-!%**!' en news for everyone.

True, true. I took a class with NCMG; if I remember correctly, the most common person to be killed in an avalanche is a 20-30 year old male, with a basic avalanche course under his belt. Guess that, sometimes, a little information is just enough to make you feel less vulnerable. I've heard that statistic over and over, and always wondered if it actually had little to do with the training, and more to do with the amount of time spent out in the backcountry? Anyone have statistics for number of avalanche victims, vs time spend in the backcountry per year, to compare the level of training statistics to?

figure out what you think is reasonable, spend a little more than that and you should be safe. Also, remeber, if she says now, you may be eating the cost of the ring anyway. Besides, sinces it's about to be "our" money, she's paying for 1/2 of it anyway

Given they're Lynn Hill / RUMR body type, I wonder what Jawa's could climb?

We can't let this die yet!!

Copper bottom, folding handle cooking pot, from a stream at the base of Eagle Cap, was still 1/2 full of rice?

600mg every 12 hours can do wonders! Probably not a good idea for daily use, but that's what i've had prescribed for inflamed rotator cuffs in the past.

Your all just geek wanna-bees They changed the name because the Brontosauras skeleton was actually from 2 different dinosaurs. They had the right body with the wrong head. So it never really existed in the first place

I'm a moron! And damn it, and it wasn't even morning either!

conversion..... -54 degrees F 7 ft long at 1.98 lbs Something seems goofy with those numbers? Huge bag, no weight, and rated to obscenely cold. What's the model?

If you can get away with a womens medium Northern Mountain Supply has some dirt cheap deals. Coal's for $29, etc. Worth checking out.

Silly boy, she doesn't tele

Ok, as it's that time of year and as usual i'm desperately searching for christmas present ideas for the little misses... any recomendations? Or what are is everyone hoping to find under the tree? (P.S. She rock climbs, does some alpine, hoping to get a couple of big mountains next year, hoping to do some snowshoeing this winter, and of course is a girl which always complicates things.) All ideas appreciated!

Maybe i'm a sucker for biographies but Ascent : a bio of Willi Unsoeld. That guy was a serious stud, not to mention a humanitarian Feeding the Rat : a bio of Mo Anthoine, nice unpretentious approach to climbing, from another hardman. and of course The Climb up to Hell (Jack Olson?) one hell of a rescue, but what an awful tragedy. and The White Spider (Harrer). I guess i've got an Eiger thing to.

Nice article. I never quite understood why so many people take the text of the Bible so literally. After all, even the newest parts are thousands of years old and translated 3 or 4 times, sometimes well, sometimes poorly, no document is going to survive that in an absolutely pure form. Science in no way negates religion, or negates the divine. As memory serves, the Pope also gave scientists his blessing to research anything up the point of the Big Bang. While the Catholic church may be a little dogmatic in some instances, I can at least respect that a huge amount of thought, prayer, and consideration have gone into every last aspect of their doctrine. Much more than I can say about a lot of organizations. now i'm just rambling so i'll stop The supposed "war" between religion and science is overstated. Those on the side of atheism find comfort in pointing out the ignorance of "creationists" and painting all people of faith with this broad brush-stroke. In reality, there are many people of faith who find that science and religion can coexist and are not necessarily mutually-exclusive. Scientists who think that science somehow answers all the questions about life and its purpose are just as ignorant as the most instranigent creationist. Agreed, there are people on both sides who are ridgid and locked in their own mindsets, and believe anyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong. Maybe we should just ban all people incapable of independant thought and analysis from the gene pool. Then they wouldn't be able to infect their spawn with their ridgid mindsets Either that or just remove warning labels from things like toothpaste. If you can kill yourself with toothpaste you shouldn't have kids. Was it Plato or Socrates? among many good words to live by "The unexamined life is unfit to be lived by man."

Nice article. I never quite understood why so many people take the text of the Bible so literally. After all, even the newest parts are thousands of years old and translated 3 or 4 times, sometimes well, sometimes poorly, no document is going to survive that in an absolutely pure form. Science in no way negates religion, or negates the divine. As memory serves, the Pope also gave scientists his blessing to research anything up the point of the Big Bang. While the Catholic church may be a little dogmatic in some instances, I can at least respect that a huge amount of thought, prayer, and consideration have gone into every last aspect of their doctrine. Much more than I can say about a lot of organizations. now i'm just rambling so i'll stop

Dru, can ya'll please keep him? We don't really want him anymore and I think you'll be more kind to him than anybody else.

Fawkers, I feel sorry for the students more than anything else. Just shows that were not as far removed from monkeys as we think we are Oh, and your links broken....