selkirk

who was it that said "Hell is other people"

I've got two great grandparents in their 90's. They both smoke, and eat lots of italian food. As of two years ago my Great Grandpa still eats raw sausage, and feeds to whichever small furry animals and/or small children he's left with. Somehow I don't think going vegan is going to extend my life span more than 2 months, and then i'd have to pass up eating all of gods tasty creatures! You know, the other veagans; turkies, cows, deer, mmmmmmmmmmmm. Were mean to be omnivores after all! So tuck in, and how do you like your big juicy steak?

had the distinct displeasure to spend 2 weeks in Houston a few years ago. Worst place i've been in a long time! Flat, fugly, eeechh..

guy's don't really like to hear that dear

I'd certainly be in again for the week after Thanksgiving. Make sure you bring the biggest headlamp you've got. With it getting dark at 5:00 you'll need it. Oh, and if you don't don't have leashless tools with big pinky guards i'm thinking gloves may be in order to keep the knuckles off the rock.

If your in any way shape or form religious there is definitely a moral imperitive to take care of those less fortunate. Not that this transfers into action by very many people. I think in a lot of ways' KK hit the nail on the head. For most people it's CYA first and foremost, everyone else can figure it out for themselves.

A guy I climbed with a couple of years ago had "This is Not a Step" on the top of his helmet and had "This End Up" on the back. At the moment i'm seriously considering "Can't sleep. Clown's will eat me." for mine

Of course this needs to be normalized by the how quickly the rest of society is increasing.

I've heard something similar put forward before. The fundamental need had nothing to do with Saddam or Iraq, but that we needed additional military bases in the area. Makes much more sense than most of the BS that the war was sold on.

ooh, nit picky. I like that. I'll adjust accordingly. And yeah, in my mind bush has been pretty much a failure. It could have been worse though. He could have actually installed a more effective and trustworty cabinet which would have allowed him to accomplish a larger portion of his agenda. As is, the general level of incompetence of many of his appointees and cabinet seems to have prevented him from making things as bad as they could have been. And your he may not be the worst. I'd put 10 bucks down now that in 20 years, the best that will be said of his policies is ineffectual and poorly executed. And you only get accused of seeing things in black and white when you indicate that all liberals hate this country, don't support the troops and want to see us crash and burn in Iraq. I'd say it's utterly patriotic to attack the president, his cabinent, and his foreign policy when there are so many problems with them.

Are you referring to Bush's obvious attempt to divert attention from his being caught lying to us? He's obviously lied again when he says that a senator from New Jersey or a governor from Vermont had access to the same intelligence he did. you are a monomaniac you are a monomaniac I'd love to see you say this with a straight face Bush is a genius. He has done a fabuluous job running the country. He was completely correct in invading Iraq. Iraq had WMD's, they just showed restraint and didn't use them when we invaded. Our occupation of Iraq is not a quagmire. We are not creating more terrorists while we are over there. Our civil liberties are not being erroded at home. The patriot act is in no way overreaching. The department of homeland security is a fabulous idea, and has been flawlessly implemented. The No-Child-Left-Behind act has been an utter success, because bush had a fantastic track record with education in Texas. Abstinence only education, reduces pregnancies and risky behaviours. Tax breaks for the wealthy improves the income of the poor.

hmmmm, maybe I should say reactionary? propoganda blinded patriot? general all around wankers

"America sucks"? - gee, reading this thread, I wonder why conservatives get the idea that liberals hate America, root for us to "lose", and are unpatriotic. Oh, yeah, I forgot, it's "patriotic" to attack your president, country, and foreign policy ad nauseam with a monomaniacal obsession. I love it how conservatives see everything in black and white.

Sounds good. I'll bring what kit i've got, though it aint much. 3:30 and Issaquah works for me!

I might be interested. Though I know absolutely nothing about drytooling! and am reasonably sure I have the wrong gear for it as well

Or there's the western version... "Oh-mommy-take-me-home"

Thanks for the advice everyone! Right now i'm leaning more towards an all around settup as opposed to either super light weight, or free ride setup. I should be Avalanche 1 certified by Feb. and already have the shovel and probe but no beacon yet. I'll probably eventually want to do ski-approaches to climbs but probablynot this year, so i'll hold off on the Silvrettas for now (Well that and I'd need to buy plastic boots anyway ) So, anybody got a cheep set of extra skies

Have a good trip and congrats!

I'm interested in picking up and AT settup, and wondering what people opinions are on what I need! And I figured this is probably the right place for opinions I'm primarily thinking about a used set, in the 1-3 yr old range. I don't know that i'm committed enough suck up the cost for a new one. Right now I think i'm probably after all-purpose boards in the 170-180cm range, with DIN adjustable bindings. So.. any suggestions on boards/bindings and/or boots to look for? What is a reasonable price? (I've seen everything from 150-1000 in yard sale) (My background if it's important: 5'10", 150lb, used to ski moderately hard in bounds (black/double black) but haven't ever done any BC and haven't skiied seriously in 7 or 8 years. Looking for something that will be fine inbounds while I get my legs back, but that I can take into the backcountry as well. ) So, please feel free to flame away, just sprinkle in a little advice while you do it! Thanks in advance

aaaah, but they're so cute when they're shaved!

Man, trying to spray and work at the same time is rough!

Why don't you like it when I get things backwards? I thought you were into that sort of thing

No, I know what to do with this thread! It's the other one that's proving tuff to penetrate.

You practice with cheese filled horsecock? I knew you had a kinky side but

Are you sure?