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or bring a partner you can spoon with ;-)

Some folks take these majors because they are relatively "easy". "Man I was premed but Chem 101 was soooo hard!". There's a whole bunch of different situations going on here, and Jon is on to something. What I find sad is we have so many great engineering schools and too few students pursuing it. So we end up importing tons of foreign educated folks, not because of our schools, but because of our students, and the lack of willpower to work on hard subjects. OTOH, we have a lot of schools that allow engineers and folks in hard science to avoid writing, literature, foreign languages, and other "soft" classes, when these unidimensional dufuses need exactly that balance (and keeping engineers in these classes could keep these liberal arts departments alive).

Too busy with your own debate, eh? Sammy or Dave - who won, boner? Go Gary Cherone!

"It's functionally equivalent..."

Ne ickushaj menya

It would take me 3 hours just to get to the base of the Torment climb. Shit.

"Coexist"

Right now Ptarmigan Ridge looks... scary, but earlier season, it would be tough to resist climbing once you get this far. :-)

Trip: Observation Rock - North Face Date: 9/30/2012 Trip Report: My friend JP and I climbed Observation Rock yesterday. We camped at the walk-in at Mowich Lake and started out with headlamps at about 5:30 am. It was cold at night (about 40) and we walked on some ground hoar frost on the upper part of Spray Park trail. This boded well for nice firm snow on the route. A stream was even frozen on the ridge below the route, coming off the snow fields below the glacier: My partner has not done a steep snow climb yet, so I led out first. I wanted to simulclimb if possible as the slope is pretty mellow at the bottom. JP was cool with that. I ended up placing 3 pickets then set up an anchor that seemed just over a rope length from the top, and brought up JP: To my surprise JP wanted to lead the second pitch, so I pointed out a spot to shoot for that seemed to be a good belay. When he got there though, there was about 40 feet of rope left and I encouraged him to just top out. He was about 6 feet short, so we just simulclimbed that bit and he hip belayed me from the top. It is worth noting that rockfall was minimal. At the top it was sunny and surprisingly warm, even hot with convection waves visibly rising from the volcanic, mooonscape rock. We scrambled to the summit, where one solo hiker was just heading out. Summit view of the Nordwand of Rainier: We then headed down, passing a few more hikers on the scramble route. I'm sure the NPS does not approve of rock walls, bivy sites, etc, especially the one below, which is one of the most impressive and elaborate sites I have ever seen anywhere: The hike out was quite pleasant, as it always is in summer and fall in Spray Park. Here is a parting shot, with our route the obvious snow ramp on the right. Gear Notes: 4 pickets, ice axe, 2nd tool, helmet. Approach Notes: Dry and dusty.

+1

plain-flying musilm speach?

My advice would be to not underestimate how long it takes to get up Torment and down to the rap (and plan a turnaround time if you are way off on your guess).

Musilms flying plains?

We had two awesome back-to-back ski years that blew chunks for climbing. Now we get the inverse. Go with the flow.

Winter ascent of Rainier, anyone?

ah poor kev. you ARE special. Yes, he is very thpethal

I'd rather drink them

oly oly oly, you know dumbbone is just trolling you, no?

could point out that hood's in oregon but then, hey, they got a similiar thign going this year! (and i can't think of a time i've ever been in the timberline p-lot and NOT seen some snowboarders toking up) holy shit, this article from a couple days ago says 58% in support of 502 in the state! http://redmond.patch.com/articles/poll-should-i-502-go-up-in-smoke-cfbc176a duh... I've been drinking too... let's pretend it's in WA, then ;-)

If it's legal and I don't have to worry about my shit getting confiscated, I'll smoke a bowl with you somewhere - top of the Palmer's mayhap? ;-)

My premise is essentially that I abhor those that have the bumper sticker AND those who loose their shit over them. One is a pretentious fuck and the other an ignorant troglodyte. It's an annoyance - "let's wish away people's profoundly different belief systems and human nature to squabble with each other over anything"

You've got your symbol: nothing. Quite a propos. ;-)

please tell me you're voting for i502 in november then? Of course I am.

0.01 pounds. $10K bail. Arraignment, blah blah blah. Waste of f-ing time and money.

Morons, find something better to do...