KaskadskyjKozak

Sometime before you were born, things were different. Finding climbing partners is difficult. Not many people climbed. Some who did were just plain bad at it. Organised groups were formed to address some of these issues. It still works for many. What's your problem anyway?? ! Lighten up some will ya? How about posting some pics of your climbs by way of discussing something interesting? his problem is that he's an insecure, immature little child. don't waste your time on him.

I thought this thread was about something else entirely...

good judgement would have been to block the site entirely

helicopters? sounds more like a slab avalanche about to release

as opposed to nonskilled climbers, eh, KK? keep up the bad karma and you might regret it

no skilled climbers ever get in accidents

any pics of bigfoot?

I did now

Actually from MSR's website, the XGK EX is over 2 oz heavier than the whisperlite. My older XGK is actually about 3.5 oz heaver than a whisperlite. But I agree with the above posters, the XGK is a nice stove. it's close enough for me (I don't cut off the end of my toothbrush handle either :-)) )

there's no comparing those jackasses to someone who had an accident climbing

If Bush pardons Ley or any of these c***suckers, I'll post a huge rant right here. I promise I've got no love for the majority of CEO's out there

a dear co-worker of mine, very liberal, gloated when Rich was pardoned (along with the others). he thought it was so cool I heard the same sentiment from lots of talking heads on the media. don't worry, Matt, I'm not talking about you :-)

I hope he tries. It would be ANOTHER great reason to impeach his criminal ass. Pardons would occur in 1/09 - too late to impeach. And, of course Marc Rich's pardon doesn't bother you thoroughly-consistent idealogues

There's an article about a Russian climber's death on 05/22 on risk.ru (in Russian). Not sure if it's the same incident as reported above, but this is what risk.ru say: On May 21st a team of 20 people attempted to summit, all using oxygen. 16 of them did summit, 4 others got to about 8,600-8,700 meters. Everybody made it down to the 7,800 camp that day in good weather and good spirits. The next day (May 22) as they were preparing to descend, one of them - a 54-year-old man (who was among the non-summiteers) felt sick, complained of lack of oxygen and inability to breathe (even though he was using bottled oxygen). Raising the volume of oxygen from 2 to 4 l/min didn't help. A doctor-recommended injection of dexametanose (sp?) didn't help. He died. It was impossible to carry his body all the way down; so the guides and expedition members covered his body in sleeping bags and rocks; then descended to base camp. This is just one of the tragic incidents; but this one doesn't sound like the one where the climber was left to die just below the summit. It could be a "death from exhaustion"... RIP. I never know how to write about these things... Paulina Vichnaya pam'yat'.

there are some accident threads and mounties bashing threads already out there for that purpose

when they don't toss their a*** in the slammer!

spoken like a true dominatrix

gee, Jay, say what you really mean.

not really

MSR XGK. No heavier than a whisper lite, lights easy, has a good base support, few moving parts, works well at altitude, etc.

Cruisin' to the crags in my Subaru Jackin' the gapers, slappin' the fo's Went to a pitch to show my moves Knuckle-heads out there cold zip'n the routes A car pulls up, who can it be? A fresh climbin' party, sportin' killer gear They rolls down a window and started to say It's all about red-pointin' that 5.11a Cuz the boyz in de crag are alwayz hard You come talkin' that trash we'll bull your car Knowin' nothin' in life but to be legit' Don't quote me boy, cuz I ain't sayin' shit ...

Ebonics? You sound like Jar-Jar Binks

Cool, but does anyone compliment you for your full rack?

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