KaskadskyjKozak

wow. that would scare the crap out of me. I've read one too many S&R report on line or in Accidents in Mountaineering.

book knowledge is not enough... you have to at least hook up with some people who have experience that you can trust and who can impart it to you.

Gas prices suck. But we've brought it all on ourselves.

Anybody been up there recently? What are the conditions like?

why not just put everything inside a plastic bag inside of your pack?

It's in John Long's book. The kind of thing you learn by heart when you are beginning and then forget and do naturally. :-)

seems climbing is down in general... see other threads on Rainier attempts, etc.

As I said before, no rock anchors. It doesn't take a genius to girth-hitch a tree. A basic student isn't going to have a clue what SRENE means. bullshit. they teach more than girth hitching a tree. and they teach SRENE

They teach belay anchors, and from there you could graduate and take the crags course or the intermediate course, or just buy John Long's book, and learn with other, more experienced climbers

I just moved to shorten my commute, and plan to start biking soon myself. No more driving to and from work and then the gym. kill two birds with one stone. I'll just bring deodorant to mask the sweat. Maybe people will bother me less if I stink?

Remember people talking about Clinton Fatigue? Well, I've already got Bush Fatigue and Iraq Fatigue. Guess that's another thread though.

You could take the mountie's basic course and then just go off an climb whatever you want w/o worrying about "graduating". Graduation is geared towards continued participation - in advanced courses, becoming a volunteer/leader, etc. But many people just take a class to learn what they can and move on.

Which is the most glaring example of this that you see in the anti-invasion/war camp? monomaniac

software people have poor hygiene anyways, so who cares about the sweat?

nice troll there are people on both sides of the Iraq debate who are clueless with their oversimplified positions based on ignorance.

another back-seat driver with no kids, talking out of his butt

I mean it's easier to kill them, ignore suffering and injustices in their countries, and be just indifferent to it all, if you know nothing about them. It's also easy to oversimplify relations with those countries and solutions to their problems.

it's easier to care less about people and countries that you know nothing about

Many Americans wouldn't be able to find the US on a map of the world. no.

Consider climbing the Emmons route. It's still a dog route, but there are half as many as on the DC, and it is the least technical.

HOLY SHIT!

did you chase it down with Mountain Dew?

I suggest you start drinking heavily.

slander!!

thread drift is cool