KaskadskyjKozak

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You make that sound like a bad thing...

I think the dude who put them in there should have a revelation and chop them himself...and he's so dang proud of himself that he had someone take pictures of it all. I ain't got the time or money to mess with that myself. They aren't. Leaving stuff up there of any kind is littering. It ain't the size of the litter, it's the principle. At least you can pop old pickets out of the snow and haul down "tat" and other garbage. Speaking of installing permanent anchors on big mountains, I seem to recall a number of years ago that there was another guy (Larry Penberthy?) who was advocating enhanced safety measures on Mt. Rainier and suggested that some sort of railing be put up on Disappointment Cleaver....like bolts on Everest, another way of dumbin' it all down for the masses. I know a guy who thought they should put a fixed line in at Camp Curtis because the snow was low that year and descending to the Emmons was "a safety issue"

Hi Fatty, I believe you - you are definitely a "sledder". I bet you could beat me at triggering avalanches and breaking the law.

Will there be any people around to even care?

so, use the fat douchebags to get access, then stab them in their hefty backside to get them out of primo climbing areas? I could go with that.

They should allow snowmobilers on Everest

so, because base camp looks like shit, bolting thousands of feet higher is ok?

two wrongs make a right?

so what kind of snowmobile do u have? ask your mom.

it's clear why you find this a good thing -looking at some dude's ass for 4 miles.

Those who can, climb. Those who can't, snowmobile.

Hillary is rolling in his grave, I'm sure.

18 people in two parties? W T F? Good job!

A couple years ago I was up on the Easton Glacier doing crevasse rescue practice. All day we breathed fumes of snowmobilers going up and down the glacier around us. In the afternoon an electrical storm developed, prompting us to haul ass out of there. We quickly packed up camp and prepared for the last few hours of the day after an already long day... and well three of us had "nature's call" at about the same time. We proceeded to find separate spots to drop trou facing away from the Railroad Grade and towards the open glacier terminus. Almost on cue two snowmobilers passed nearby us, as we saluted them with a row of bare asses and dropping brown, corn-fed toilet trout (and yes, we blue bagged them out of there).

your bad ;-)

kinda like hammering pitons, trundling rocks, gardening routes, drilling holes. i find if you bitch about someone.... someone will pitch a bitch about u... climbers aren't exactly a loved crowd. hey, good idea. maybe you could trundle rocks onto the snowmobilers?

and ice tool would be more effective - more ergonomic and suited for the task

The good news is that snowmobilers tend to be candidates for Darwin Awards. The bad news is that their rate of succumbing to a quick and early death falls far below their rate of reproduction.

Rattlesnake Ledge is a good first trail - even for a 3 or 4 year old. It's 2 miles or so each way with just over 1000 foot gain.

They should dynamite the Hillary Step while they're at it. "It would be easy for the arm chair climber to say that if someone who attempts to climb Everest is not capable of climbing the Yellow Band without fixed rope then they shouldn't be there in the first place," it would be "easy" because it's f-in true.

We peaked over at that route last year from the top of the Fuhrer Finger. It looked pretty straightforward - contiguous snow, a little steeper than the finger.

STFU, nOOb!

Recently youths taunted a tiger at the SF zoo until it jumped it's enclosure and killed them. The animal was euthanized. Not much difference.