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The "elite" - talk about an argument full of crap. What percentage of the population do you actually think can not afford to visit a national park due to the entrance fee AND would visit if the fees were eliminated. And, I highly doubt that any "elite" choose NPs over more "suitable" vacation spots for their tastes and lifestyle.

A few years ago I helped volunteer at MRNP doing meadow restoration at an old (50's era?) car/RV-campground near Sunrise. It was a great day, and I really enjoyed it.

I bitched about the Canadian park fees which are much higher than ours. Again, I think taxes should cover entrance fees, but not necessarily usage fees. Should the park service cover shuttles as well? Campground fees, etc? Maybe the lodges should be "free" to? The cost to visit parks and even most usage fees are really not that high.

How the hell is this hypothetical mother of 3 or 4 able to afford to pay for the gas to fill up her gas tank to drive to the park (yet alone the cost of owning and maintaining her vehicle) and not afford an entrance fee that is a fraction of that cost? It's a bullshit scenario you are constructing, Bill. A modest park fee is not a big deal, IMO. I'd prefer there were no fees to see our parks since federal taxes should cover this, but the hystrionics in this thread are laughable.

Not if the Dinosaur was like Mike the Headless Chicken:

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Mostly class 4 with some 5.2 moves. Great exposure throughout.

We were going to climb Triumph as an overnighter and assumed day 2 would be brutal. Black Peak is totally doable in a day, but the camp is nice and hard to pass up on.

We had pretty much zero skeeters. And no black flies either. :-)

cool. you gonna knock it out car-to-car? I'm doing it as a mellow overnighter. I likes me some camping. Yeah, it's a great place to camp for sure!

Obama especially hates white women - that's why he killed MJ!

Their best album is their first.

cool. you gonna knock it out car-to-car?

Trip: Black Peak - NE Ridge Date: 8/23/2009 Trip Report: Mountainguy01 and I were planning on climbing Triumph this w/e, but got nixed on the permit when we showed up at the Marblemount RS Sat. We considered a bunch of one- and two-day options, but settled on the NE ridge of Black, which I have wanted to do for some time. We started up the trail around noon on Sat, and made quick work of the approach to Wing Lake. The talus field was less tedious than I remembered it from my trip up Corteo late season last year. Boulder hopping before Lewis Lake: View of objective from Wing Lake: We had expected temps in the mid-40's based on the point forecast on NOAA. We had a chillier night than that: It took about 1.5 hours to ascend the talus, snowfield, and scrambling to get to the ridge. Mountainguy01 opted to leave his 'pons on his back. I put mine on which put me 10 minutes behind him. The snow was bulletproof. We roped up on the col, doubling up a 60 m thin rope (1/2 of a double) and using it as a 30 m lead rope. We started off with running belays, pitched out about 3 pitches, then finished with running belays. Somehow I got to lead the best pitches (5.easy with cool exposure). We were a bit slow - taking 6 hours from camp to summit. We climbed in real alpine conditions - it was finger-numbing cold, especially on the N side of the ridge. We had on long underwear tops, hard shells, and gloves, and carried our packs up and over. Good times! Mountainguy01 leading: KK leading: View down to Mountainguy01 on ridge: View down to KK on the ridge: KK scrambling to the summit: View up the descent route: We had the summit to ourselves - most of the folks ascended the S ridge and had already started down when we had arrived. We were passed by one solo climber near the false summit. He said he took 3.5 hours to summit (Wing Lake to summit). The descent was quick (75-80 min) but unpleasant in a couple of spots - most notably for the first 100-200 feet from the col left of the S ridge. The hike out went quickly (under 2.5 hours). This climb is definitely doable as a day trip if you are so inclined. Gear Notes: helmet, 30 m rope, trekking poles, aluminum 'pons (optional but useful), light alpine rack with lots of double slings. Approach Notes: Follow cairns through Talus to Lewis Lake. Traverse around right side of lake.

perfect candidate for aluminum pons?

harsh... :-)

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THAT I don't get. I've been out with folks like this - you summit "early" and it's like "hey, what else can we bag nearby", whereas I am thinking "this went well, let's enjoy the summit, take it easy going down and get dinner and brews in town".

That's why I like hunting. Also because you get to see and experience so much beautiful wildlife, and then kill it. And hopefully share it. Ah loves me some elk steaks. did you eat your compost-heap rat?

Well, I've got a tick list for peaks, but I'm with you on the routes... would prefer to bag them with more interesting/quality routes.

Eat your corn dumbass. Your "family" is just fattening you up. Mmmm, organic chicken!

Just as long as you don't post photos of Uranus

Ivan, meet Prole.