Thrill

is that rain in the forcast for smith?

weak! you can get 20% at Climb Max without using some lame code

Yoga in the Pearl rocks. go there fo sho!

I'd go with the Beal. just my opinion

I live in Portland but have to agree. Canadian chicks are HOT

yeah hiking. LOL what's up with that?

Does anyone know the status of St Helens? Is it still closed to climbing?

we got it before but then it warmed up.. so it's a matter of it not warming up again.

Sno-Park permits issued by Washington, California and Idaho are honored in Oregon and Oregon permits are honored in those states.

I would do the first pitch of SE corner and then go straight up from the belay station from there. it's a hard pitch but clean and fun. the traverse and the 4th class scramble suck. I've done it, just to do it and now I'll skip that part from here on out. good luck

Commander Furryface

go to Rocky butte.. best that portland has to offer.

go see Closer. steamy

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/Produ...ategory_id=5906 Ok as far as the players goes iPod holds the market pretty firm. The iPod mini is really nice. But these are spendy and still a little on the big side for simple stuff like running. I have an iRock! It is the smallest by far and cheapest. You forget it is even there. I use it for Mountaineering and BC skiing. Very happy with it. check it out.

Back in the day.. women themselves were thought of as low second class people.. same as the blacks, the Native Americans, etc.. Now you read comments like that and you cant believe that it was a common opinion.. Yet in the year 2004 we just choose to discriminate against gays.. same story. They’re not good enough for all the same laws you and I enjoy. It’s unheard of to think that. Too bad we just can’t fast-forward to the time where we’ll look back at all the people that voted to discriminate.. including the US President and we’ll shake our heads in disbelief and shame. All people are equal. Once everyone grasps that.. we’ll be on our way to a better world

first, this is an educated girl in Iraq? that has an opinion? that is allowed to express that opinion? that is rich enough to have a computer and live in a city with internet and power? sorry kids, I dont buy this bullshit. just another terrorist brainwashing the rest of the Iraqi civilians. Oh I bet the last Iraqi regime didn’t rape, kill, steal, and overall do terrible things to the “innocent” people of Iraq. I bet none of that happened. Yeah right. This is just typical brainwash to keep the Muslim people believing it is the Americans that are so horrible. So if the Americans drop everything and pull out right now and leave Iraq, will the “innocent” Iraqi citizens then not hate us? not blame us for their hardships? No matter what we do they will hate us. they hate us for being American and for protecting Israel. End of story. 100 years from now they will still hate us. Please don’t get me wrong.. I do not support this war.. I’m just calling bullshit to these so called “first hand account.”

hey Glass, you are my hero, man!

Joseph. I was the one with the friend in the Marines that Gary personally denied a membership suspension to. So it did happen. Also stop with the “Gary isn’t getting rich.” Excuses. Most of us don’t expect the world to be handed to us just because we belong to PRG.. but as you can see he charges twice as much as any other gym in the freaking country. So if he’s not doing well then he’s a financial idiot. A few things that I want to report though on a positive note.. this thread IS working. I’m in total shock myself.. but it is. So far there have been NEW ropes put up in place of the really freaking scary ones he had. Also some of the routes have changed per some of the members recommendations.. so that’s another plus. So I say good job for all that bitched and moaned and good job to Gary and PRG for actually listening. Now, financially the gym is still ridiculously high on membership costs.. since people are paying it I doubt it will change. Lead ropes and suspending memberships I really doubt are going to fly. But lead certificates should NOT be charged for. (even though that does nothing for me now) Longer expiration on a punch card would be really nice. And cheaper too. $12 a day is still a lot. As an annual member you CAN bring in someone who has NEVER been before.. but I would like to see if each year an annual member can have just two free “appreciation” passes so they can bring in anyone they want say their wife who has been before or a friend who refuses to join but you like to climb with.. etc.

I don’t agree with supplying lead ropes only because the ropes he supplies for TR is so bad that it’s scary.

dudes we have been trying to get Gary to suspend annual memberships since the beginning of time. he wouldn’t even suspend my friend's when he had to go away to war. how lame is that? nickel and dime the customers I think is the biggest thing that pisses people off. I doubt we'll get anywhere with the annual membership suspension option, but making the annual membership more enticing would be a GREAT start. For example.. if I’m an annual member why do I have to pay extra for a lead card? ( too late for me too but oh well) If I’m an annual member why do I have to give up an entire wall for some “reserved class”? Why not offer two free day passes to annual members to bring in their spouses or friends (even if they have been before)?

free studioworks for annual members. no wall reserving! equal leading routes to TR routes, mid-range lead routes, camera on the bike rack area, .... he just had a promo with his bouldering preview... and charged new people to come in.. lame.

I was up there and it looked NOTHING like that.

that was nicely put. thanks. yeah guess it's a mood LOL peace

a sad sappy story doesnt change shit. Either he’ll succeed or he’ll loose all his longtime customers and he’ll fail. Simple as that.

Goat Rocks